Testimony costs flight attendant her job

SignOnSanDiego ^ | July 12, 2002 | Kristen Green

[BJungNan]

Her testimony was not the reason she lost her job. Typical liberal headline. She lost her job because she smoked pot.

The headline writer might just as well have written that she lost her job because she would not lie under oath.

[FresnoDA]

NEW SONG ALERT, IN...5,4,3,2,1

[hoosiermama]

during Westerfield's trial because "I want to make sure he gets convicted."

"Because of him, it's just ruined everyone's lives," she said.

If you are aware of how Scapgoating works (I am) Both of above statments, particularly linked, are textbook examples of verbally setting up a 'scapegoat'. If not actually linked in the interview than only the last part is textbook.

[spectre]

Don't feel bad, the "bugger" has been suggested before.

I don't know how the spot got there. Did he leave it in the MH? Did he comfort Danielle when she was crying? Was it Brenda's or her brothers? Was it Danielle's actual Blood or was it MitDNA blood..her Mother's or brothers?

It makes no sense that DW did this crime...none at all. Especially if he was as "drunk" as what they are claiming and get only one drop of blood on that jacket..and none of his fingerprints in her room or house..etc.

This guy would have to have been a Navy Seal to pull off this kidnapping!

sw

[Henrietta]

"The Third Circuit has held that "the fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine does not apply to derivative evidence secured as a result of a voluntary statement obtained before Miranda warnings are issued."

California is in the Ninth Circuit, so this would not be binding on California.

[cyncooper]

Well, here is what I've been thinking about the dogs.

As far as DW being detected in her room, I think someone would have to linger to leave a scent. As Redlipstick reminded us from the transcripts, he was covered from head to toe from a cap on his head to the boots on his feet. I don't believe he would have hung around.

As to the MH. By the time the police entered with the dogs the comforter(s) had been removed and cleaned. I would think the comforter would have held the scent since her fingerprints were found near the bed. DW also tells the police himself that after their visit to his house Monday morning he sat down at his computer to do some stuff, then headed out to the MH with vacuum to "find his cell phone". I think it possible that the comforters not in there plus any cleaning he self-admittedly did may mute or outright eliminate her scent.

[Freedom2specul8]

Yes there is a difference, I would suspect he would be disbarred if he got caught, am not sure. But see, the confusion lies in those posts by those who say he's got the morals of snake because of the consensual sex/swap and pot. And then I'm told that it's cuz pot is illegal. SO......what if pot were legal?

[cyncooper]

As to accepting it as proof. I don't rely on that as proof at all. I think it can be a tool for police but don't really think of it as evidence (that is how I would handle it as a juror).

[It's me]

Kemal said she was just answering questions posed to her during Westerfield's trial because "I want to make sure he gets convicted."

"Because of him, it's just ruined everyone's lives," she said.

Classic victim line!! No dear, you got caught doing something illegal. It is your fault.

I like to serve the public."

Oh yeah, I bet!

[the Deejay]

Damon has always been "my" prime suspect. I don't have him tried & convicted, but he's the first one I would have zeroed in on if I were the DA.

[Henrietta]

I just don't know the answer to this question, but if I find out, I'll post it. I don't practice crim law, so I can only speculate. My gut reaction is no, not if the cops reasonably relied on the false statements.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

It's not relevant, IMO, if Feldman is the biggest pothead in San Diego County

Yep......but don't forget that the person who thinks it is finds swinging and pot smoking and strangers traipsing through a home irrelevant when a child turns up missing. Go figure.

[spectre]

Kim, and DW having porn on his computer that for the most part, DID belong to his son, does not give him a motive for murder either!

I am saying, that if DW did not do this (follow me here, Kim), then WHO did? Who are the most likely suspects, who had access to the child? We have more than TWO in that house that evening..don't we.

And please, KIM, don't be so naive as to think a parent can't molest their own child...I don't know if Damon did. But you all want to turn DW into a Pedophile from the porno, don't you?

So if a person would speculate that Damon was HIGH...and his wife was out prowling the night-club scene...with Lesbo's...and he wasn't getting any at home...would you need a Degree in Psycology to say he "could have turned to his daughter to satisfy his out of control sexual urges"...?

Just a hypothetical situation, Kim..

sw

[cyncooper]

If you are aware of how Scapgoating works (I am) Both of above statments, particularly linked, are textbook examples of verbally setting up a 'scapegoat'.

I thought I agreed with you that she was "scapegoating" DW for being the reason she lost her job (through her convoluted reasoning).

In your sentence about "more credance that he has been set up as a "Scapegoat". I thought you were referring to DW being framed for murder.

[the Deejay]

Hehehehehe. I think it's just too funny about Denise losing her job!! And she's blaming DW because SHE'S THE ONE that smoked the pot??? How rich is that?? Hell's bells! What did she expect, that her employer wouldn't notice her testimony?

I wonder how long until Brady the pot dealer loses his job, as well as the rest of the vdam crowd?? This could get mighty interesting, folks!! Hehehehehe.

[Jaded]

If you take in to consideration Faulkner's testimony and the open door by the ME, you have to find in favor of the Defendant. He could not have placed her a Dehesa, much as a percentage of the free world would like to believe. Just look at RR's page.

[hoosiermama]

When a scapegoat situation is established than those creating it BLAME THE SCAPEGOAT FOR EVERYTHING! That COULD include murder? It is a possibility.

[spectre]

Hehehehee! LOL! Snicker, snicker...Couldn't happen to a nicer group of people!

sw

[Freedom2specul8]

Thanks for your help..I was trying to find ca statute on that doctrine..I suspect it's but that same. I have to go, stayed online a bout 2 hours too long. (multi-tasking..computer stuff) So will catch ya later.

[cyncooper]

Maybe she just thinks he did it?

I do agree that she's not accepting her job loss for her own violation of company rules (not to mention the law), that is, getting caught pot smoking.