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State Department demands source of classified material (reporter for National Review VISA)
AP ^ | By BARRY SCHWEID

Posted on 07/12/2002 7:07:27 PM PDT by PatriotReporter

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To: PatriotReporter
...spokesman Richard Boucher [State Department] said Mowbray had written inaccurate stories...

Liar! Liar! How pathetic, that citizens and journalists have to resort to ferreting out classified documents in order to prove our government dissembles. Someone is covering their arse.

The State Department needs a thorough cleaning.

21 posted on 07/12/2002 10:45:53 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: PatriotReporter
See: Reuters: State Dept. missing two more laptops, Reuters, May 4, 2000 (posted May 5th by Thanatos).
WASHINGTON, May 5 (UPI) -- One day after she berated Foreign Service employees for security lapses, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright admitted that the State Department was missing two more laptop computers.

The Washington Post reported Friday that Albright testified Thursday before a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that two unclassified laptops were missing.

One of the missing machines was assigned to Morton Halperin, assistant secretary of state for policy and planning. Although Halperin said he had not used the computer, others in his office may have used it for tracking expenses and routine memos, the newspaper reported ...

See: House Chair Rips State Dept. Over Missing Laptops, AP, May 5, 2000, by Barry Schweid (posted May 6th by Native American Female Vet); excerpted.

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Some of the computers at the State Department used for classified material are not equipped with passwords and other security features, a senior U.S. official said Friday.

Describing the computers as of the ''off-the-shelf'' variety, the official said he did not know whether a laptop computer discovered missing in February from the department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research had the devices.

The department confirmed Friday that two other laptop computers had disappeared, but only the one that vanished in February is known to have contained secret information.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the areas in which computers containing classified information are used are themselves secure and the computers are not supposed to be removed. The problem, he said, is that someone got into the secure area of the bureau who should have not been there. And, he said, it is the way the area is secured, not what is on the computers, that provide security.

Entry into secure areas are carefully logged, the official said.

Disclosure that some computers are not equipped with protective devices was the latest twist in the State Department's security situation and tensions between Congress and the department ...

But State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said the job was in the competent hands of the Bureau of Diplomatic Security. ''It's comprised not only of special agents who conduct investigation and provide dignitary protection, but also of very seasoned information and computer security specialists with many years of experience,'' he said.

Thus far, three laptop computers have been reported missing. Of the two newly announced computers, one had been signed out to a senior official, Morton H. Halperin, the assistant secretary of state for policy planning.

Boucher said the computers were found to be missing during an inventory ordered after the unexplained disappearance in February of a laptop computer containing highly classified information. That is the only one of the three laptops known to contain classified material, he said.

Suggesting other equipment may be missing as well, Boucher said: ''I don't want to mislead anybody into thinking that we're saying there's only two others -- two unclassified machines missing. We're still in the middle of this inventory" ...

Officials have said the first missing laptop contained large quantities of documents about arms proliferation issues and highly sensitive information about sources and methods of U.S. intelligence collection.

Earlier, a bugging device was found in a conference room.

See: More State Department Laptops Lost, NewsMax.com, May 18, 2000 (posted by kattracks).

A total of 15 State Department laptop computers have vanished over the last year and a half, the Washington Post reported today, adding that the matter has now resulted in a security crackdown.

The missing laptops, all identified as "unclassified" or not containing classified information, are part of the State Departments inventory of some 1,913 portable computers. And a security check of the department's 60 laptops that could contain secret information revealed that only one was missing ...


22 posted on 07/12/2002 10:48:58 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: gcruse
" Here we have 'secret' war planning documents appearing in the papers daily,..."

Diversion...disinformation...discombobulation...

23 posted on 07/12/2002 11:52:37 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: gcruse
"..or are we becoming another Zimbabwe?"

No, more like Stalin's Soviet Union.
24 posted on 07/13/2002 12:38:20 AM PDT by JusticeLives
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To: healey22
"The State Department would rather the public not know what enemies they are of the United States."

Which is what Joe McCarthy set out to expose. We had commies in many fed agencies and I think the State Dept. had the highest number of traitors working and spying for the Communist Party. Which reminds me, I wonder what the Democratic Socialists in Congress are up to these days?

25 posted on 07/13/2002 12:57:14 AM PDT by JusticeLives
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To: PatriotReporter
I am not a fan of most in the press, but in this case I have more heartburn for the State Department employee who leaked the information than the reporter. Granted, Pentagon leaks are worse that stories about visa applications but it seems there is an epidemic of leaks among "civil servants".
26 posted on 07/13/2002 4:31:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: PatriotReporter
Don't care what y'all think about any "visa express for terrorists". I even agree.

However, a reporter without a security clearance should never have classified material in his possesion. Who in the State Department gave it to him? What else has that "source" been giving him?

Remember, this is substantially the same State Department that we were all saying such bad things about just two years ago for leaking classified info like a sieve. Remember the classified laptop stolen from the same building as this latest incident? Remember the briefcase stolen from an office down the hall from Mad Maddie, while two secretaries watched? Remember the bug in the conference room?

Was this reporter actually naive enough to think he could just walk away after telling everybody that he had a classified document with him?

He says that "some" of his reporting was "based" on classified material. Everyone just assumes, then, that everything he wrote must be total gospel. Why would you think that without more information?
27 posted on 07/13/2002 5:14:36 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I have NO heartburn for the State Department employee....whistleblower, who gave this reporter the heads up on this outrageous visa program.
28 posted on 07/13/2002 5:17:55 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: JusticeLives
I bet you are just like me! Re this on target comment by you, "
I wonder what the Democratic Socialists in Congress are up to these days? "

We can't wait until the Rat Senators, Leaky Leahy, Da$$hole, Blubber Kennedy, Hair Plug Biden, and The Torch start to investigate the socialists and communists in the State Department!

Yeah, sure, you bet you last dollar and mine that the rat infested State Department will never be investigated by Rat Controlled Senate.
29 posted on 07/13/2002 9:04:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: gaspar
Yes, Mowbray had done a terrific job. However, why he took a classified cable into the State Department building and from their into the briefing room (if that is actually what he did) baffles me. If he was given the classified document while in the building he could be in trouble. For media types to be in possession of highly classified intelligence outside of controlled conditions but inside the State Department could get you arrested.

I've read all Mowbray's reporting on this issue, and he has not revealed anything that could be considered injurious to our national interests. On the contrary, he has shown the light of day on a culture that places its interests above Americans' security. It sounds like he was naive, or perhaps frustrated, enough to make a mistake in this instance, but I have a feeling the so-called "cable" contained nothing more than further embarrassing information about the State Department's handling of visas. State has outright lied and ducked about this issue for months, and what is obvious from Mowbray's writing is that there are people within the department who are just as outraged by the policy as he is.

30 posted on 07/13/2002 9:14:25 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: seamole
Thanks for the ping,there are several stories on this subject. Haven't seen you around FR as much lately, you must be enjoying the summer.
32 posted on 07/13/2002 11:29:28 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: PatriotReporter
Last year, the Justice Department obtained the personal phone records of Associated Press reporter John Solomon after he had written about a federal wiretap of Sen. Robert G. Torricelli, R-N.J.

Just an honest mistake by AP or Nando?, totally inadventent, nothing inmplied here.

33 posted on 07/13/2002 11:33:09 AM PDT by Diplomat
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To: browardchad
I agree with you. Mowbray is doing a wonderful public service and practically single-handed snatched that Bureau from Colin Powell's embrace. My point is that he put himself really in an untenable situation when he announced in the State Department briefing that he had on his person (or this is how I interpret it) a classified cable. Whether or not the State Department overclassifies (and everyone knows they do) is immaterial. The higher the classification of an unauthorized document in his possession could lead to greater and greater penalty.

My hunch is that the cable was classified CONFIDENTIAL or the innocuous Official Use Only, or they might have really made trouble (which is what they wanted to do in the first place). Now State has undoubtedly got the original and there are markings on some cables that can give away its provenence. Let's hope he hasn't blown his source. I still say it is likely that he will lose his State pass privilege, because if for no other reason, he should have known better than to sound off the way he did

34 posted on 07/13/2002 4:56:46 PM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar
Let's hope he hasn't blown his source. I still say it is likely that he will lose his State pass privilege, because if for no other reason, he should have known better than to sound off the way he did

Agreed. Let's hope.

35 posted on 07/13/2002 6:30:43 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: seamole
I doubt it's Powell since he's the one who had to approve zapping Ryan. This is more likely the lifers in the Dept. fighting back in protest over Ryan's firing. Bureaucrats hate hints of non-lifetime job security. The action may even been an attempt to embarass Powell or even to get him fired.
36 posted on 07/13/2002 6:45:55 PM PDT by LenS
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To: Right Wing Professor
Can you think of any reason why this is classified, except to protect the jobs of the people handing out visas to terrorists?

I always assume that ten per cent of what is classified really needs to be kept secret. The other nine tenths is classified to cover up incompetence or criminality.

Do you remember that in 2000 (I think) Congress passed what was essentially a British-style Official Secrets Act, which Clinton only vetoed when he was pressured by his media pals? As I remember, Mowbray and the whistleblower could both have done hard time under that law.

37 posted on 07/13/2002 7:36:03 PM PDT by Southern Federalist
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To: PatriotReporter
Can you say the beginning of a POLICE STATE! Wake up folks!
38 posted on 07/14/2002 7:04:38 AM PDT by JohnPaulJones
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To: seamole
good luck
40 posted on 07/14/2002 11:11:04 AM PDT by Free the USA
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