Seven die on plane

News24.com ^ | July 13 2002 | Sapa-AFP

[knighthawk]

Moscow - A flight from Paris to Tokyo was forced to make an emergency landing on Saturday in the Siberian city of Khabarovsk following the deaths of seven people on board, Interfax quoted airport officials as saying.

The plane requested to make the emergency landing in the far-eastern Russian city following the death of one passenger, but during its descent six other people fell ill and died, the officials said.

The report said the plane "has been placed in quarantine", but gave no further details.

[knighthawk]

Ping

[Bahbah]

Hi, knighthawk. There is a previous post on this and it appears that only one person died and that of a heart attack. There was a translation problem that led them to report 7 persons involved.

[cake_crumb]

Quaranteen? Well, that'd have to be the fastest spreadng/acting bug in the universe. Shame there are no more details, like what airline, total number of passengers etc.

[Terriergal]

This is weird. I was just thinking of a scenario like this the other day! Someone could easily obtain an anthrax immunization and then go on board and open an envelope of powder. On a long flight *Everyone* would be infected.

[dighton]

Erroneous report, based on mistranslation. See reply #5 here.

Saturday, 13 July, 2002, 07:54 GMT 08:54 UK Plane in emergency landing in Russia The Russian news agency, Interfax, is reporting that a flight from Paris to Tokyo has been forced to make an emergency landing near the Siberian city of Khabarovsk. Airport officials are quoted as saying the pilot requested permission to land after a Japanese woman on board died, of a stroke. Six other people were injured during the descent. Interfax has corrected its earlier report that all seven had died; it has attributed the mistake to a faulty translation. -- BBC.

[Terriergal]

Oh good.

[knighthawk]

Thanks for the info. This clears the whole thing.

[debg]

if the six others were "injured," why is the plane in quarantine?

[Chad Fairbanks]

Probably to isolate the Incident. Can't have Non-isolated Incidents running loose, can we? ;0)

[SBeck]

There was a translation problem

Let's see, 'one' translates from odin, 'seven' translates from sedm, 'person' translates from chelovek and 'persons' translates from lide. I'd say some news service needs to hire a new translator.

[tictoc]

Is there an equivalent in Russian for "casualties"? In the English language, the word "casualties" often leads to misunderstanding, because it means dead and/or injured but many automatically think "dead".

Of course, "casualties" is used in a military context so would not have been used here.

[Bahbah]

Wow, I speak French and some German and some Spanish and Italian, but have no familiarity with oriental languages. Thnaks.

[thinktwice]

Thanks for the info -- One interesting story replaced with, perhaps, a more interesting story.

If there's any good way to spot a lie, it's when the story changes in two or more ways; one change making it softer, and the others contradicting supposedly irrevelant points in the first report.

All we truly know is something happened and something now "smells" within the second story.

A propaganda coverup?

Probably.

[SBeck]

Is there an equivalent in Russian for "casualties"? In the English language, the word "casualties" often leads to misunderstanding, because it means dead and/or injured but many automatically think "dead".

Of course, "casualties" is used in a military context so would not have been used here.

There are two definitions for 'casualty' in Russian and which means both injured and killed. The civilian zhertva is the singular, but loses the 'a' in plural because it is considered neuter case (There were no casualties - Zhertv ne bylo). The military definition has an adjectival form (prichastiya) and a noun both of which can only be used in plural form. Thus 'casualties' can be ranenye or poteri.

Thus endeth the Russian lesson for the day.

[SBeck]

considered neuter case

Sorry, considered a neuter noun. In this instance, the accusative case.

[tictoc]

Thanks (or should I say odshim priadne?)

[Tijeras_Slim]

I thought they had all had the fish.

[SBeck]

Ochen' priyatno i nichego. Very good and it was nothing.