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Israeli lobby sends wake-up call: Alabama race may come to haunt McKinney
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | January 27, 2002 | Melanie Eversley

Posted on 07/27/2002 9:30:20 AM PDT by RobFromGa

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To: RobFromGa
This is encouraging Rob, good Post. McKinney is an embarrassment!
61 posted on 07/27/2002 5:21:04 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: Waskishi
I am bright enough to know that if a person has dual citizenship sooner or later alligence will have to be sworn to one of the countries.Most of us are happy with our citizenship and have no wish to become a citizen of a cult country

Are you bright enough to know that almost all Jews who are U.S. citizens have no intention of exercising that dual citizenship thing and are just fine with U.S. citizenship?

Or do you know that and just use that as shield from behind which you can attack Jews and pretend that nobody will realize that you're an anti-semite?

62 posted on 07/27/2002 5:33:27 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Waskishi
cult country
Israel is a "cult country"? Is that what you're saying?
63 posted on 07/27/2002 5:39:51 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: NYC GOP Chick; dennisw
Typical. Have any comments on the role of Tempelson in the Democrat party? On the Kennedy oil leases in Angola? Why not provide some information refuting Howard Phillips, The Nation, the Washington Post and a dozen other sources? Is McKinney not trying to clean up the diamond business and, in doing so, going against some heavy hitters in the party?

You are confident enough of your position to say nothing but to post a picture everyone here has seen a hundred times. Back it up...tell us all how my analysis of the situation is incorrect.

A few hundred more sources are here if you need more information to reinforce whatever you were trying to say by posting a childish graphic.

A decent overview of the Israeli end of the business is here

Dennisw. . . DeBeers has a very good intelligence gathering operation. Tempelsman cut his teeth working for it in the 1950s. But you knew that.

66 posted on 07/27/2002 5:54:40 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Waskishi
You obviously have a stick up your butt over Israel and Jews, and intentionally "confuse" the two. I'm Jewish, so in your world I have to "declare" my loyalty to this country, right?
67 posted on 07/27/2002 5:59:48 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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68 posted on 07/27/2002 6:01:42 PM PDT by mhking
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To: aristeides
I suspect that Jewish groups, having made their point with Hilliard, have struck an agreement with the Black Congressional Caucus not to defeat any other of its members this year.

Sounds right. Almost every member of the Caucus supported McKinney against the DLC/Tempelsman crowd. They can't take all of them out. Democrats are also, quietly, after the Muslim vote. Having too high profile a campaign against McKinney is not in the party's interest.

69 posted on 07/27/2002 6:03:00 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Waskishi
cult (n.)
1-a) A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
2) A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

Definition number 1 is the definition I think of when someone uses the word "cult." I do not think of Judaism as a "cult" according to this definition. Definition #2 seems to be the definition you are using. Of course, by that definition, any sect of Christianity would also be a cult.

70 posted on 07/27/2002 6:03:57 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: LarryLied
 

Dennisw. . . DeBeers has a very good intelligence gathering operation. Tempelsman cut his teeth working for it in the 1950s. But you knew that.

I don't know that 'cause I don't have my face buried in conspiracy websites like you do.


Gathering normal business information is spying when a Jew is involved. This is what you are saying to me. If you want to give me any further info on T then go right ahead.
Looks to me that you are peeved at successful business run by people you believe are Jews..... The Oppenheimers converted a few generations back. To Protestantism. Looks like the Oppenheimers treated Black workers very well during apartheid despite your efforts to slime them as exploiting Blacks

 

 

Harry Oppenheimer, 1908-2000


Billionaire South African tycoon and philanthropist Harry Oppenheimer, who used his clout as head of the Anglo-De Beers diamond and mining empire to oppose apartheid in his homeland, died August 19th 2000 at Kenridge Hospital in Johannesburg. Oppenheimer, who believed industrialization and economic growth was key in destroying apartheid and had founded as well as funded programs to assist Black South Africans, was 91 years old.

Born Harry Frederick Oppenheimer on October 28th, 1908 in Kimberly, South Africa, Harry Oppenheimer (or HFO as he was known at his corporate headquarters) was groomed from an early age to succeed his father Sir Ernest Oppenheimer as head of the family business. Sir Ernest Oppenheimer, a German Jew who arrived in South Africa in 1902 via England had been the son of a cigar maker. In 1917 Sir Ernest founded the Anglo American Corporation of South Africa, later adding De Beers and effectively ruling the world commerce in diamonds and minerals both precious and strategic. The conglomerate mined and trafficked dominant shares of gold and platinum as well as uranium, vanadium and copper, all used in various forms of military weaponry. Sir Ernest was a revered role model to his son, Harry, and when he converted in the early 1930s to the Anglican Church, Harry Oppenheimer followed suit.

As successor to the Oppenheimer empire, Harry was educated in England, at prestigious institutions like the Charterhouse private academy and took his degree at Christ Church, Oxford, where he studied politics and philosophy. Oppenheimer was also a private student of British economist Sir Roy Harrod. With his education completed, Oppenheimer returned to South Africa and began a lengthy apprenticeship in his father's conglomerate, first under Sir Ernest and later as a second-in-command. Oppenheimer interrupted his industrial career during World War II as a voluntary member of South Africa's Army, serving as an intelligence officer for an armored car detachment in both South Africa and the northern countries of the continent. While serving in the army, Oppenheimer wed Bridget McCall, a marriage that would last his entire life.

Oppenheimer returned from World War II and was elected to South African Parliament in 1948 as a member of the minority white liberal opposition, lending his considerable financial and high profile support to anti-apartheid stances. Oppenheimer's first term in Parliament coincided with the takeover of the National Party, which introduced apartheid and controlled South African policies for some 40 years. Of his struggles with his nation's policies, Oppenheimer said in later years he felt he "was able to achieve virtually nothing except to keep what (he) considered a voice of common sense and humanity alive".

Despite sacrificing his seat in Parliament in 1957 with the death of his father and the onset of duties as head of Anglo-De Beers, Oppenheimer broke much ground in the movement to abolish the barriers created by apartheid practices. Heading Anglo-American Corp from 1957-1982 and De Beers Consolidated Mines from 1957-1984, Oppenheimer created thousands of jobs for South Africans and migrants from neighboring nations- both black and white. Expanding and diversifying from diamonds and metals to fuel mining (coal and uranium) to pulp and paper, real estate, banking, and transportation, the Oppenheimer empire grew and reached into the Yukon and Malaysia but continually reinvested in ventures in South Africa, bolstering the nation's economy, which Oppenheimer believed would enhance the demand for well educated and skilled black workers, eating away at apartheid practices. Oppenheimer remained a strong voice against apartheid, frequently finding himself discriminated against by pro-apartheid interests in government and business, while his international image was also subject to persecution by ill-informed anti-apartheid interests who only saw a successful, white, male South African business tycoon and lumped the philanthropist in with the racially biased Afrikaner Whites.

Oppenheimer was modest about his philanthropic activities, but was a leader in establishing housing for his black employees, and developed educational and training programs to help them move into higher paying skilled jobs and positions of responsibility. Oppenheimer supported Boy Scouts, Girl Guides, numerous hospitals and educational programs, especially for black South Africans. Oppenheimer's particular pet project was the Urban Foundation, which was dedicated to improving living and educational environments for urban black South Africans.

Oppenheimer retired from his corporate duties in the early 1980s, turning the reigns over to his son Nicholas and devoting himself to his charities, politics and leisure pursuits. Oppenheimer was an avid art collector, his homes in Johannesburg and Durban housing an assortment of great impressionist works, and he was particularly fond of a Renoir he had found while a college student for a mere $60.00. Oppenheimer was a skilled cultivator of orchids, collected manuscripts, and kept a private animal preserve and stable, and lovingly humored his wife Bridget's mania for following horse racing at Durban.

Oppenheimer gracefully bore the snubs and public attacks from both heads of state in his homeland as well as fellow businessmen and Afrikaner commoners for his anti-apartheid politics, and continued to lend his moral and financial support to liberal and reformist activities. Harry Oppenheimer was admitted to Kenridge Hospital the evening of August 18th with complaints of abdominal pain and headache and died early on the 19th of August 2000. The cause of death was not determined. Oppenheimer reportedly left behind an estate of over $2.5 billion. He is survived by his wife of over 50 years, Bridget McCall Oppenheimer, his son Nicholas, and daughter Mary as well as grandchildren and great-grandchildren.



71 posted on 07/27/2002 6:10:10 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
Typical. Have any comments on the role of Tempelson in the Democrat party? 

I could care less

On the Kennedy oil leases in Angola? 

The Kennedys are out making money. Helped by their political influence. And this Jewish fellow Templesman helped them get the leases...According to you. The only reason you care is because a Jewish fellow is involved. You don't care about the Kennedy involvement.

Why not provide some information refuting Howard Phillips, The Nation, the Washington Post and a dozen other sources? Is McKinney not trying to clean up the diamond business and, 

What utter nonsense. McKinney isn't trying to clean up the diamond business. Where do you dream up this nonsense? She is merely trying to get the people she likes a bigger cut of it. Jesse Jackson style. It's a turf battle and naturally you take the side of those who up against DeBeers who you think is a "Jewish" company. You are so transparent. LOL!

in doing so, going against some heavy hitters in the party?

You must be McKinney's biggest fan at FreeRepublic. Why don't you stop yapping and go send her big fat donation?

73 posted on 07/27/2002 6:21:07 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Waskishi
I used Atomica which provided them from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. (They had about 6 definitions. I chose the ones that seemed applicable to the meaning you were trying to convey-- the first two.)
74 posted on 07/27/2002 6:24:51 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Waskishi
Nobody has asked you to swear allegiance to us or to Rome, but you seem to think that I have to do so. Why?
76 posted on 07/27/2002 6:38:13 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: Waskishi
You know, I was honest with you, but I see you have no respect, just a HUGE sense of superiority. Here are all 6, Ace, you pick the one you intended. [This is it, word-for-word. I added code so that it would be readable.]

cult n.
1a) A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
1b)The followers of such a religion or sect.
2)A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3)The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony and ritual.
4)A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5a)Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person, principle, or thing.
5b)The object of such devotion.
6)An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or intellectual interest.

After you get through looking this over, why don't you look up the definition of "civility"? You could benefit from acquiring a little of it.

79 posted on 07/27/2002 7:07:26 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Waskishi
Come on, stay with the program here! I'm talking about this country -- the United States of America.

Now, don't you have a David Duke meeting to attend?

80 posted on 07/27/2002 7:09:59 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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