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Logical thinking, obviously, is not a strength possessed by the liberals...better be careful in accepting this appraisal. If the left wasn't logical how could it have captured all levels of the education system, the inner cities, the blue collar unions, the hollywood types, and the newly immigrated legal or not? The spokespersons for the left may not be able to win a college debate but they are doing something that allows them to capture enough of the electorate to be at least slightly more than even in the senate and almost even in the house. Public faces of the left in the media may not be able to compete and win with Ann in a logical confrontation but this inadequacy doesn't prevent the left from having enough power to play the right to better than a virtual draw by achieveing their objectives incrementally. Is the government smaller than it was 12 years ago? The right has had control of at least 2 of the 3 powers of the government (president, house, senate) that can shape the course of the country and what have they done? The farm bill? The federalized airport security? Those on the left have some skill in getting what they want and that means there is a logic to what they are doing.

Yeah, they know that the masses will vote for them if they lie often enough and loudly enough, and by promising to give whatever group they are talking to a cut of the action. We all know in here that the average voter has neither the time nor the IQ to actually evaluate the political BS that flies around an election. All they hear is "If I'm elected I'll do ____ for YOU!!". And they actually believe it. They forget the thousands of times the ba$tards have lied. They actually think the 'Rats give a $hit about their daily lives (because they try to run our daily lives).

"They are doing something that allows them to capture enough of the electorate.."

It's not hard RWG. Their platform is,"Vote for us, and we'll take a bunch of money from other people and give it to you."

It's just that simple. Logic? No. Letting human nature take its course.

"If the left wasn't logical how could it have captured all levels of the education system, the inner cities, the blue collar unions, the hollywood types, and the newly immigrated legal or not?"

You failed to note the left's most meaningful single accomplishment -- and their most powerful weapon against conservatives: control of the mainstream media, both nationally and locally.

Were it not for the emergence of talk radio and the internet, we would be voiceless. And voiceless, we are, each of us, alone and surrounded in what seems a sea of liberalism.

GHWB couldn't get re-elected without both of these new media. The Republican Congressional Revolution of '94 would not have happened without talk radio. And GWB would not have been elected without both talk radio and the internet working in his favor.

The left probably wishes earnestly that Algore had never invented the internet...