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To: DoughtyOne
Thanks for your considered words - shows some love for
FR and exploring the truth. Refreshing!
After reading the original post, I was high on the fact that someone was putting up a fight, and the possibility of
slowing down the Dems movement to legalize illegals. If only all those who get side tracked wanting to stone Klayman for percieved sins could use as much energy on this
case, and support the chance that some positive law would help those out numbered legal citizens in Anaheim!
The catholic church in Anaheim has organized ID Card days,
the last reported one had 2000 people in line for the 500 cards that the Mex. Consulates office was ready to issue.
The LA Times reported that the Santa Ana (next door to Anaheim) Consulates office was getting 1,800 requests a month. The cards are $29 and good for 5 years. Police and local banks accept them as ID.
Perhaps some on this thread can see how they are distracted by making Klayman the subject, rather than addressing the real issue of illegals. It is about illegals swamping our hospitals, jails, schools and housing - driving without car insurance,, and working off the books and sending millions out of our country.
It's bad in many states, but CA liberals seem to have made
more progress in legalizing the practice. Anything for a
vote - legal or illegal. - It's coming to your state, if it isn't already there.
The Bush administration seems to be deaf and dumb to the issue - my guess is he needs the 2nd term, as well as the
money and man power to clean up the mess in progress.
I'd love to see every Mexican Consul's office Freeped, but
that sure wouldn't help "W" get his second term.
60 posted on 07/30/2002 3:45:33 PM PDT by seenenuf
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To: seenenuf
I hear you. I can tell this is getting to you and you're not alone. I truly do feel as if we have been sold out. Sorry, but that is the inescapable conclusion. Bush has allowed this sham ID thing to fluorish inside our own borders. It's as if the man has been neutered. Since when do foreign nations set up US national policy on US soil? Cripe, either was have a President on this side of the border to defend us or we don't. Evidently we don't.
62 posted on 07/30/2002 3:53:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: seenenuf
Thanks for your considered words - shows some love for FR and exploring the truth. Refreshing!

After reading the original post, I was high on the fact that someone was putting up a fight, and the possibility of slowing down the Dems movement to legalize illegals. If only all those who get side tracked wanting to stone Klayman for percieved sins could use as much energy on this case, and support the chance that some positive law would help those out numbered legal citizens in Anaheim!
(snip)
I'd love to see every Mexican Consul's office Freeped, but that sure wouldn't help "W" get his second term.

Excellent comments! In every state, and every city, there are so many miscarriages of our laws, misuse of government funds, authority, etc.... and they are all FReep opportunities for those local to the area. The people in power, the politicians and bureaucrats who ignore the laws, who are corrupt, whose power has gone to their heads... will not mend their ways unless there are good folks willing to spend a few hours (or in some instances a few weekends) outside their offices with signs in hand calling attention to the outrages for which they (the FReep-ees) are responsible.

FReepers put huge pressure on Algore during the election contest, the Modesto FReepers put huge pressure on Condit and got local publicity... which translated into voter "education" and very likely changed a lot of fence-sitting Condit voters into anti-Condit voters, FReepers helped to publicize the Klamath basin farmers' water fight last year, and offered much support to the cause, which was hugely successful from a publicity standpoint for the farmers and it caused a lot of people to rethink the endangered species issue, and FReepers in DC and New York also countered the anti-America crowd when they had their "anti-war" rallies... the result of which I saw this past June 30th (I think I got the date right) in DC when only a few hundred "anti-war" protesters straggled down Pennsylvania Avenue on their most recent march. The wind was taken out of their sails when we stood up to them in September and October, and they were very unsuccessful at getting their usual supporters re-enthused.

When we see something that is not right, it's great to post a thread here on FR, but it's even more productive to organize protests, to bring the issue to the attention of the folks who aren't paying as much attention to the news as we are. And I have to give Larry Klayman credit for doing the same thing in the arena in which he is most proficient. He sees something that is not right and he doesn't just sit back and whine about it with his beer buddies... he files lawsuits. It's what he knows; it's his profession. And like anyone else who competes with others of like skill (although his adversaries have deep pockets, ours), some he wins and some he loses.

How's that saying go? Evil triumphs when good men (and women) do nothing.

171 posted on 07/30/2002 9:39:02 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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