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Another FBI Agent Blows the WhistleNew evidence FBI quashed another terror probe before 9/11
LA Weekly ^ | Aug 2,2002 | Jim Crogan

Posted on 08/01/2002 12:00:36 PM PDT by honway

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To: Nita Nupress; honway; OKCSubmariner; MizSterious; Fred Mertz
thanx for digging this one up, Nita.

sure would like to see OKCsub jump in on this one. I think he's got a lot of info on hamas in "the city".
61 posted on 08/02/2002 6:46:38 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Wallaby; ntrulock; blackbag; OKCSubmariner; FreedominJesusChrist; Donald Stone; Joe Montana
Federal whistle-blower statutes don't apply to FBI agents. Rather than being reviewed by a third party, their complaints are handled internally.

Your #24 is quite a facinating read. Thanks for posting it.

62 posted on 08/02/2002 6:52:13 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Twodees; honway; Fred Mertz; rdavis84
Why did Wobbly import Republican Guard members to OKC?

correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe poppy was more responsible than wobbly for importing the republican guard.

63 posted on 08/02/2002 6:57:50 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
Wobbly is GHW Bush, aka "poppy". He got that nickname when he was getting set for the Gulf War and his fellow socialist, Maggie Thatcher warned him, "Now don't go getting wobbly on me". I was calling him Wobbly before his boy became president. Sometimes I call W "Wobbly Jr."

Sorry for the confusion. BTW, if you have links to any of the articles relating how the Republican guard came to be in OKC, could you post them? I'm sort of bouncing between here and some writing right now. Thanks.

64 posted on 08/02/2002 7:27:25 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Twodees
thanx for the explanation. I guess I missed the origins of that tag. thought it was a reference to bubba's johnson.
65 posted on 08/02/2002 7:42:25 AM PDT by thinden
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To: Twodees; thinden
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/588510/posts

Iraqi Military Officers in OKC and Lincoln,NE

"As made known to the CIA, were the following, among other details: That George Herbert Walker Bush, as President, at the close of the Persian Gulf War, 1991, arranged to bring into the U.S. some four thousand Iraqi military officers, some from intelligence units, and their families. Some 550 of these officers became residents in Lincoln, Nebraska, AND TWO THOUSAND OF THEM took up residence in Oklahoma City. In a watered down story, CBS' "60 Minutes" Program did a segment once on this about Lincoln, Nebraska but said NOTHING about the Iraqi military officers in Oklahoma City.

The financial and other provisions for them and their families were arranged by the Elder Bush, and then quietly continued by Bill Clinton as President, and perpetuated by George W. Bush as White House "resident" and "occupant". The arrangements included financial subsidies, housing, and employment for the Iraqi officers.

I guess the plan was to replace Saddam's crowd with these guys, when the time comes.Risky business considering some may have remained loyal to Saddam, IMHO

66 posted on 08/02/2002 8:14:29 AM PDT by honway
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To: steve50
BCCI - had arab/muslim angles. Mueller had a key position there, and NO ONE was convicted.

The Wall Street Journal brought this issue up the week before Mueller was confirmed as FBI head.

Bush still appointed him.

IMO - Mueller is dirty.

67 posted on 08/02/2002 8:21:00 AM PDT by Triple
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To: Twodees; thinden
Iraqi accused of forced marriage is paroled
By MARGERY BECK, Associated Press Writer

September 28, 2000, Thursday, BC cycle

LINCOLN, Neb.

One of two Iraqi men sentenced to prison for marrying and having sex with the teen-age daughters of a fellow refugee was paroled Thursday under strict conditions.

The state Parole Board voted 4-0 to parole Majed Al-Tamimy.

Conditions of his release from prison can be lifted only by another vote of the board. Al-Tamimy must wear an electronic monitor and have no contact with the girl he married, the board said. Al-Tamimy, who planned to live at a home in Lincoln with a friend, also will be registered as a sex offender and will be required to receive sex offender and cultural counseling.

Al-Tamimy, 31, was accused of having sex with the 14-year-old daughter of a friend after an arranged marriage during a Moslem ceremony in November 1996. He was accused of forcing the girl to have sex several times before she ran away.

Another Iraqi, Latif Al-Hussani, 37, was accused of marrying a 13-year-old daughter during the same ceremony and forcing her to have sex before she ran away.

The two men, refugees of the Persian Gulf War who came to Lincoln in 1995, denied doing anything wrong. They were sentenced in 1997 to four to six years in prison.

In Nebraska, people cannot marry if they are under 17 years old.

This article provides supporting evidence that Iraqi's were sent to Lincoln.

68 posted on 08/02/2002 8:24:53 AM PDT by honway
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To: Triple
Mueller is as dirty as they come. Some old BCCI boys have surfaced in rumors of some other dealings in this administration, still being stonewalled tho.
69 posted on 08/02/2002 8:34:56 AM PDT by steve50
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http://www.arabamerican.net/pipermail/arab-american/Week-of-Mon-19990614/001780.html

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Iraqis Held in U.S. May Be Freed

By Jeff Wong
Associated Press Writer

Saturday, June 12, 1999; 6:07 a.m. EDT

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Five former Iraqi military officers who claimed they fought Saddam Hussein and then spent 2 1/2 years in custody fighting deportation from the United States are happy to finally be getting out of jail.

``The system here is good, but the people who represent (the government) have brought shame to this country,'' said Mohammed Jwer Abboud Al-Ammary, a former military cargo plane pilot.

The Iraqis may stay in Nebraska until a friendly country agrees to accept them, a judge ruled Friday. A sixth Iraqi refused the agreement, the end to a saga that began in 1996 when the U.S. airlifted 6,500 Iraqis from Turkey following a failed coup in Iraq.

The men's families were granted asylum, but immigration authorities sought deportation and claimed they were spies for Hussein.

The men said they were grateful for the efforts to free them, especially those of former CIA Director James Woolsey, now a private lawyer. But they also feel betrayed by the U.S. government, which they say promised asylum.

Immigration Judge D.D. Sitgraves denied the men asylum in March 1998 and ordered them deported, saying they could be double agents. The men claimed they would be executed if sent home.

U.S. authorities justified their imprisonment largely on secret evidence, a practice in immigration cases that has come under fire from federal lawmakers and activists.

Last year, the INS unsealed some of the evidence -- testimony about the six Iraqis from FBI agents who discussed hunches, distaste for the detainees and their feelings about Arab culture. Woolsey called the detention ``a stain on the honor of the United States.''

The sixth Iraqi, Ali Yasim Mohammed Karim, said he will never sign the freedom deal. Authorities have given him until July 9 to change his mind. He could eventually be deported to Iraq.

The remaining five will be released within two weeks to Lincoln, Neb., where their families were resettled.

Under the deal, the men must abandon any claims for asylum here but may remain in Nebraska until they are deported to a friendly country. They must report to the INS daily, stay at home at night, accept wire taps on their telephones and stay in the country.

70 posted on 08/02/2002 9:32:09 AM PDT by honway
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To: aristeides
That Egyptian could also have been tipped off because he is in fact an infiltrator among the terrorists.

Good point.

Of course, the ultimate loyalty of double agents can always be open to doubt -- as the case of Ali Mohamed shows.

DIdn't he basically deliver non-terrorist-related information to the FBI as a diversionary tactic, prior to the first WTC bombing? I usually think of a double agent as engaged in related activities on both sides.

71 posted on 08/02/2002 9:37:52 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: honway
http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/1999/08/evidence.html

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In August, Iraqi military forces rolled into northern Iraq and crushed the resistance effort. U.S. forces evacuated more than 6,000 Iraqis and Kurds to a NATO air base in Turkey before flying them to Guam. During their five-month stay in Guam, the refugees were taught American civics--including, Frenzen notes with irony, the right to face one's accuser in court. They also submitted to FBI interviews.

Frenzen contends that disgruntled resistance workers, motivated in some cases by petty personal disputes with his clients, intentionally misled the FBI about their backgrounds. But because the FBI's reports of those interviews are classified, federal authorities will not disclose why the refugees are considered potential threats to national security. The INS has granted asylum to their wives and children.

72 posted on 08/02/2002 9:49:22 AM PDT by honway
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I appears the U.S. resettled Iraqi's from Saudi Arabia
POW camps in the early 1990's and then had another
resettlement of 6,500 in 1996 from the resistance forces
in northern Iraq. The case of Mohammed Jwer Abboud Al-Ammary, a former military cargo plane pilot, supports the case that some of these refugees may have been working for Saddam.
73 posted on 08/02/2002 9:59:21 AM PDT by honway
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To: Nita Nupress
That thing is a bear to take, as I'm sure a lot of people here know.
How many different ways can ask the same question...Do you hear voices?
Five or six different ways that I can remember. Lots of repeat questions, worded differently each time attempting to "catch you up".

Stupid test!

74 posted on 08/02/2002 10:10:35 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: honway
http://www.publiccounsel.org/news/feb501.htm

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Fascinated by the unusual aspects of the case, Levy took on the case of Mohammed Jwer Al-Ammary. Matter of Al-Ammary et al, A76-201-016, Aug. 28, 1997, San Pedro Immigration Court.

In the years since, Public Counsel, assisted by former CIA Chief James Woolsey, won declassification of 90 percent of the secret evidence against the Iraqis. Six of the Iraqis accepted a government deal that released them from jail to live under house arrest in Nebraska.

Dr. Ali Karim, another defendant, refused the deal, and opted for a new trial along with his brother, Mohammad Karim. An immigration judge acquitted the pair last year and granted both political asylum.

Recently, Attorney General Janet Reno, in one of her last actions before leaving office, lifted travel and employment restrictions on five of the men living in Nebraska, allowing them to travel outside the state. The restrictions remain against the sixth.

75 posted on 08/02/2002 10:11:53 AM PDT by honway
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the ping Fred!
76 posted on 08/02/2002 10:13:07 AM PDT by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Fred Mertz
thanks for the heads up Fred..
quite informative...
77 posted on 08/02/2002 12:08:38 PM PDT by blackbag
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To: honway
Exactly. These were slated as the "hopefuls" of the new regime once ol' Saddam was D.O.A. Unfortunately, I believe some were "sleepers".
78 posted on 08/02/2002 12:21:28 PM PDT by lawdog
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ping for any who missed it....
79 posted on 08/02/2002 12:33:52 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: honway
bump
80 posted on 08/02/2002 12:43:38 PM PDT by Leper Messiah
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