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To: andy_card
"But Summers argued (and again, this is to the best of my memory) that Vietnam was the fault of political and conceptual strategic errors and not, as you seem to claim, moral turpitude on the part of the American public."

Man you love to twist statements! You just admitted to what I pointed out to you and tried to accuse me of something entirely different. The North Vietnamese used the mush-heads on American Campuses for their political and propaganda campaigns. The media was also a willing accomplice. I know. My late Father ran into a stone wall as a PIO in Nam trying to post articles about volunteer civic action work National Guard and Reserve troops were accomplishing. The guy to killed the stories...Dan Rather. He admitted to my Dad that he "was probably a Communist, but as long as he was in charge of the bureau in Siagon, the American people were only going to see the war the way he wanted them to see it!"

The primary problem was the failure at the NCA to strategize it. The campus riots and protests and the media lies supported the NVA operation. The field actions by the NVA were only a supporting attack on the US populace.

94 posted on 08/05/2002 3:12:20 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: Redleg Duke
Man you love to twist statements! You just admitted to what I pointed out to you and tried to accuse me of something entirely different.

You give me too much credit. I'm just trying to respond to arguments I disagree with.

The North Vietnamese used the mush-heads on American Campuses for their political and propaganda campaigns. The media was also a willing accomplice.

That's just silly. The rise of the campus leftist loonies was an effect, not a cause of the US defeat in Vietnam. And Summers doesn't disagree.

My late Father ran into a stone wall as a PIO in Nam trying to post articles about volunteer civic action work National Guard and Reserve troops were accomplishing. The guy to killed the stories...Dan Rather.

I'm not going to analyze the validity of the Rather quotation, but I think the numbers of US and Vietnamese casualties speak for themselves. We were fighting without any political or strategic objectives, using tactics that were doomed to failure. Any domestic lunacy was purely coincidental. The costs were enormous, and no gain was possible.

96 posted on 08/05/2002 3:30:58 PM PDT by andy_card
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