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The Next Voucher Battleground
Wall St. Journal ^ | Aug 7, 2002 | Editorial

Posted on 08/07/2002 1:59:27 AM PDT by The Raven

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:46:51 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Less than a week before classes begin, a judge has struck down Florida's school voucher law. The groundbreaking Florida Opportunity Scholarship program culls mostly poor and minority students from the state's very worst schools and enables them to attend private and religious institutions.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blaine; davey; educationnews; florida; teacher; union; voucher
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1 posted on 08/07/2002 1:59:27 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: The Raven
You got that right. Our wonderful, efficient, public school system is just so....... perfect that we would be crazy to bring competition in.

The old, worn out arguments are shallow beyond belief.

1. We take money away from public schools.

Yeah. But a school with half as many kids is no longer 'overcrowded'. The bad section of the school can be shut down. Ideally, they would realise that tenure is not as important as which teacher is doing a better job [note ideally] and they could lay off the ineffective teachers. So not only are the costs at 1/2, but they have an opportunity to improve their school at the same time. If they blow that opportunity, the parents will choose to give up on that school.

2. Parents will be out-of-pocket more in private schools.

That is an odd argument since the average cost of private schools is lower than public, that is if you have religious based schools.

It is unconstitutional. What we have right now is unconstitutional. This, at least, promotes freedom.

2 posted on 08/07/2002 2:30:46 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
You'd think the libs would be shouting the virtues of vouchers. Parents with little money are forced to send their children to the school of the government's choosing.

BTW, this is also a look ahead at what universal medical care will be like in urban settings.

3 posted on 08/07/2002 2:41:41 AM PDT by The Raven
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4 posted on 08/07/2002 2:51:45 AM PDT by mhking
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To: The Raven
I guess access to a proper education is a personal empowerment that the Socialist Democrats can't permit any minority to have.

I say that because the majority of these situations are people who live in minority communities where the school systems are in complete disarray.

The most calous, heartless, cruelest thing they can do to a child is to smother their future and that is exactly what these Democrat lackies are doing here. Yet more children sacrificed in their efforts to maintain absolute control over the fate of minority communities and the school system. Can't let one slip through our fingers...no sir! Might become "edu-macated" and turned against us! Can't have that...

I'm crushed for the parents afflicted by this. Their hopes for the children smothered just days before the school begins. Now they are compelled to return their children to the hell holes which stand in for the public education system, courtesy of yet another Democrat operative.

We must purge this nation of the Socialist Democrat infection that has infected our government. My hope is that this ruling will be overturned quickly, and at the very least we will have 9,000 new Conservative families.

5 posted on 08/07/2002 3:12:58 AM PDT by Caipirabob
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6 posted on 08/07/2002 3:21:38 AM PDT by TxBec
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7 posted on 08/07/2002 3:56:00 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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8 posted on 08/07/2002 7:11:00 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: The Raven
from the state's very worst schools and enables them to attend private and religious institutions.

So the private and religious institutions can either:

a) flunk these students in droves

b) take resources away from competent students and devote them to the substandard students

c) lower standards

d) all of the above

'Twas a famous victory, I do believe....

9 posted on 08/07/2002 7:22:59 AM PDT by neutrino
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10 posted on 08/07/2002 9:20:27 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: The Raven
Since the Supreme Court ruling, I don't think this will stand on appeal. It's sickening the way the Left is willing to sacrifice children for social engineering.
11 posted on 08/07/2002 10:51:19 AM PDT by goodieD
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To: neutrino
Thomas Sowell has written about when he took a class taught by Milton Friedman. In a paper he argued that if a particular event were to take place that either result A or result B would follow. Friedman returned the paper with the comment "or C: your analysis is incorrect." Sowell later asked about the comment saying, "You thought my analysis was incorrect?" and Friedman replied, "I didn't say that, I just wanted you to consider the possibility."

I think you should do the same. It's actually quite possible that the kids in the failing schools weren't failing for any reason other than the schools inability to instruct them, and that they will all do fine in private school.

12 posted on 08/07/2002 11:07:08 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: summer
Florida Governor Jeb Bush has vowed to appeal, and Florida's is only one of several cases that could wend its way to the High Court in the years to come.
13 posted on 08/07/2002 1:05:25 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: The Raven
The motivation for liberals, other than allies of the NEA and UFT, to oppose vouchers is fairly clear. If minorities can get a decent education they will become economically independent. People who are economically independent tend to vote against liberal politics.
14 posted on 08/07/2002 3:30:19 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: tcostell
It's actually quite possible that the kids in the failing schools weren't failing for any reason other than the schools inability to instruct them, and that they will all do fine in private school.

Liberals oppose not vouchers because they believe they'll fail, but because they're afraid they'll succeed. The emergence of an un-ignorable black middle class would cripple the Democrats, so they must work to prevent it.

15 posted on 08/07/2002 8:47:16 PM PDT by supercat
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