Anthrax scientists under microscope (Hatfill or al-Haznawi – Who did it?)

Sydney Morning Herald ^ | August 10 2002 | Caroline Overington

[freedomcrusader]

How about anthrax vaccine and Cipro? Those two things would protect someone handling the stuff, nay?

[archy]

The military *anthrax vaccine* remains unproven and with resultant potential side effects, to include blindness and death, and weaponized military variants of anthrax may well be much less succeptable to post-exposure prophylactic treatment with Cipro or other antibiotics.

If I were in the position of packaging such materials in a home lab enviornment, I'd prefer to risk my life with the best anti-exposure gear I could come up with instead, investing heavily in military MOPP-4 chemical/biological warfare protective gear, to be worn over a closed-cell scuba diver's *drysuit* and air supply and readily available HAZMAT responder's protective equipment.

That, plus the basic *downwind* procedure described in the article should do it, followed by disposal of the contaminated gear by burning.

-archy-/-

[dead]

Thanks for the info about the anthrax "vaccine".

[freedomcrusader]

Agreed, but the post-9/11 anthrax was Cipro susceptible.

[PLMerite]

There is evidence that this outbreak was the result of covert action by Rhodesian security forces.

Huh? First I've ever heard it - or is this just a chance to get in a jab at Rhodesia?

al-Haznawi died on one of the hijacked aircraft.

THIS really spooks me out. I don't like too many coincidences.

[flamefront]

FWIW - Hatfill to Make Statement Sunday.

[The Great Satan]

Here's a question y'all might want to ask yourselves. Suppose for a moment it were really true that a rogue US Army scientist was responsible for the post-9/11 anthrax threats, as left-wing activist Barbara Rosenberg has been claiming for the last ten months. Now say you're George W. Bush. You can do practically anything. You make people disappear into secret custody and never even publish their names. The heads of the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ answer to you. The press hangs on your every word. When do you think you'd want to go public with this hideously embarassing revelation? Would you want to splash it all over the news at the exact same time as you are trying to turn the country to dealing with Saddam Hussein and his biological WMD? Does that seem like a sensible thing to do? Or would you want it to be "old news" by now, or "no news," or maybe something that turns up in the history books thirty years later, like the assassination of Diem? How would you handle it?

This is all being stage-managed to the hilt. The highly publicized due diligence search of Hatfill's home is to set the stage for something else. We are going to find out what that something else quite soon now.

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

For his part, Professor Hugh-Jones does not buy the "international terrorism theory. I think it was domestic."

Why?

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

What's the coincidence that he died on the plane? He was one of the HIJACKERS.

[knak]

Yeah, something like the clay based particle stuff (reported in the earlier stories) that held the stuff together really did come from Iraq after all.

[PLMerite]

What's the coincidence that he died on the plane? He was one of the HIJACKERS.

My bad, I read it too quick and missed that part. So much for speed-reading. I'm only familiar with the name of one of the hijackers - Atta - and I got the impression that al-Haznawi was someone in the scientific community who worked with Anthrax.

Henceforth I shall endeavor to read more slowly.

[dead]

The heads of the FBI, the CIA, and the DOJ answer to you. The press hangs on your every word.

There’s the problem with your theory.

There’s plenty of people (Clinton holdovers and others) in those agencies who are not fans of the president. They would happily leak any embarrassing information they got their hands on.

And the press would trip over themselves trying to get out any story that would embarrass “the right wing.” It wouldn’t even have to be true. It’s true they “hang on Bush’s every word” because they don’t want to miss a gaffe or a inaccuracy that they can use to embarrass or smear him with.

I have no idea what the deal with Hatfil is, but I don’t think they have anything concrete on him. And nobody in the media or the government wants to discuss the fact that there is substantial indications that at least one of the hijackers may have had anthrax.

[The Great Satan]

And the press would trip over themselves trying to get out any story that would embarrass “the right wing.”

And how would pinning 9-11 on Saddam Hussein embarass the "right wing," exactly?

Bush has leveraged the prejudices of the left to pursue his own policy objectives, the #1 objective of the past year being to buy time to deal with the anthrax threat. That's what Hatfill is all about. And, if you remember, before the "rogue right-wing Army scientist" theory, who were we supposed to think the FBI was focused on? Right-wing militias. And who started that story? Bob Woodward, confidante of Cheney and Powell, in the quintessentially liberal Washington Post.

But now it appears that we are ready to move on. All of a sudden, for some reason nobody understands, everybody is talking about what to do about Saddam Hussein -- and all the commentators are saying, "Well, I'd be for it, but's where's the connection to 9/11?" And, over the next few days, the "domestic perp" mythology is going to be very publicly discredited. And then what will everybody suddenly, magically be talking about? Why, gosh, darnit, who did send those anthrax letters, anyway?

See how this works?

[dead]

See how this works?

No. Who, exactly, has “pinned” this on Iraq?

Or is your conjecture also your “proof”?

And I'm curious, who do you think is behind the anthrax attacks? Hatfil? Iraq? The Bush Administration? Somebody else?

[The Great Satan]

The anthrax threat is an attempt by the state sponsor of 9/11 to blackmail the US government into directing the blame for that attack solely on its terrorist proxies.

That state sponsor, BTW, is the country we've been in a state of war with since 1991.

Wait and see. The blackmailer will be exposed, most likely within the next four weeks. And, by all means, bookmark this post and check back with me on 9/11/2002 to see how the picture is shaping up.

[aristeides]

This article contains a number of demonstrably untrue statements, like:

Dr Hatfill also has access to anthrax

, and that anthrax is his area of expertise.

If Australia's libel laws are at all like the UK's (and I believe they are,) Hatfill now has a pretty clear cause of action against this paper. Since this reporter was apparently one of those getting FBI leaks, I think he also has more reason now to complain about what the FBI is doing.

[dead]

The anthrax threat is an attempt by the state sponsor of 9/11 to blackmail the US government into directing the blame for that attack solely on its terrorist proxies. That state sponsor, BTW, is the country we've been in a state of war with since 1991.

OK, so you believe it was the Iraqi government that is responsible for both 9/11 and the anthrax. And you think Iraq “unleashed” the anthrax so we wouldn’t attack them immediately after 9/11. (It would help if you talked in declarative statements rather than cryptic innuendo, but I think I understand you now.)

Wait and see. The blackmailer will be exposed, most likely within the next four weeks. And, by all means, bookmark this post and check back with me on 9/11/2002 to see how the picture is shaping up.

Alright Satan. Will do.

BTW, I think Iraq has provided covert funds to Al Qaeda, but did not directly organize and plan 911. I also believe they provided the weaponized anthrax to certain organizations, hoping it would find its way to Israel or the US, but again was not involved directly in the planning or execution.

If the US finds a way to prove either you or I correct, the world will have to just shut its collective mouths when we vaporize that cesspool.

[aristeides]

Why?

I would hazard the guess that it's because he gets federal funding.

[Fred Mertz]

But how could a "person of interest" in the anthrax case get a job funded by the Justice Department to teach FBI agents about anthrax?

I didn't connect these dots earlier, but they sure cause one to think deeply. I thought he was connected to LSU as a government contractor, whose company name escapes me. I didn't realize the funds were funneled from DoJ.