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Ashcroft asked to target Net song swappers
Reuters via USAToday.com ^ | 8/9/02

Posted on 08/09/2002 6:17:28 PM PDT by GeneD

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) U.S. lawmakers have asked Attorney General John Ashcroft to go after Internet users who download unauthorized songs and other copyrighted material, raising the possibility of jail time for digital-music fans.

In a July 25 letter released late Thursday, some 19 lawmakers from both sides of the aisle asked Ashcroft to prosecute "peer-to-peer" networks like Kazaa and Morpheus and the users who swap digital songs, video clips and other files without permission from artists or their record labels.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bobbyscott; cds; diannefeinstein; digitalpiracy; fbi; hilaryrosen; howardcoble; jamessensenbrenner; joebiden; johnconyers; justicedepartment; lamarsmith; recordingindustry; riaa

1 posted on 08/09/2002 6:17:28 PM PDT by GeneD
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To: GeneD
Congress is working hard to keep us safe !
3 posted on 08/09/2002 6:20:13 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: GeneD
That another troll senator from Cali we should give rid of

DI FI B****

What wrong Di FI can't handle GenerXer downloading Frank Sinatra, Dean Martins and other music legends

Good way not get MY VOTE IN CALI

I wouldn't vote for you anyway B****
4 posted on 08/09/2002 6:23:55 PM PDT by SevenofNine
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To: GeneD
Kazaa, which in addition to music allows users to swap movies and other media files, said this week that its free software had been downloaded 100 million times.

Imagine throwing 100,000,000 people in jail? Perhaps it would be cheaper just to erect a barbed wire fence around the entire nation.

5 posted on 08/09/2002 6:25:15 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Uh huh. Hilary Rosen and her band of corporate thugs want the Feds to enforce their bottomless greed. In this day and age? That's a laugh folks.
6 posted on 08/09/2002 6:32:07 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: GeneD
"the Justice Department probably had better things to do with its time."

Yeah, like raiding whorehouses, ( except not the Congress-Whorehouse)
7 posted on 08/09/2002 6:32:55 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: GeneD
No, I think making women drink their own breast milk to get on planes should be the priority or taking away dangerous pointy Medals of Honor.
8 posted on 08/09/2002 6:43:45 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: SamAdams76
But Kazaa has such lousy selections.

I liked audiogaxlazy, I was rebuilding vinynl collection onto CD's without doing further damage to the vinyl.

Wonder what they would do with me.

99% of the stuff I down load I already own in one form or another.

Just cause I use my computer to store work in progress they think they own my computer.

They ought to pay me for preserving some of the stuff I have.

9 posted on 08/09/2002 6:46:30 PM PDT by dts32041
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To: GeneD
Ha! The P2Ps will just go further underground, this technology is hear to stay. They would be better served learning how to utilize it like they did with recordable cassettes.
10 posted on 08/09/2002 6:52:53 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: dts32041
I'm in the same boat as you. I use WinMX to download clean versions of songs I already own on vinyl or cassette. I also use WinMX for "test driving" new music. I download lots of stuff and I either decide to buy the CD or I remove it from my hard drive. If it's music I like, I definitely want the CD for the cover art and lyrics. Also, I can burn cleaner and crisper MP3s off the original CD than I can download from the Internet. I like my MP3s at 160kps or higher and on the net, most of them are still 128kps.

I also use WinMX to download "live" versions of music I already own and also unreleased songs by favorite artists. For example, I recently downloaded a live Bruce Springsteen cover of Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here." Try getting that in a record store! (If I could, I would.)

Years ago, I used to tape hundreds of hours of FM music onto tape so that I could listen to new music at leisure. I would make a decision whether or not to buy the music and then I would record over the tapes another batch of songs. Online music swapping has made this process much more efficient for me. Now I can download only the music that I am interested in hearing and I don't have to shift through a lot of garbage like DJ chatter and commercials. The music industry has a very valuable resource here to promote their music. Pity that they cannot see the opportunities here to fatten their bottom lines.

11 posted on 08/09/2002 7:08:55 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
Head to the newsgroups!
12 posted on 08/09/2002 7:13:07 PM PDT by MoJo2001
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To: MoJo2001
Which ones?
13 posted on 08/09/2002 7:15:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: GeneD
Hey man, what ever happened to "share the wealth"?
14 posted on 08/09/2002 7:19:40 PM PDT by Batrachian
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To: BJClinton
...this technology is hear to stay.

Pun?

15 posted on 08/09/2002 8:21:34 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke
Pun?

Uh..yeah! That's the ticket.
16 posted on 08/09/2002 8:23:51 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: SamAdams76
I'm surprised they are not focused on Usenet, and mp3 Newsgroups. Its like panning for gold. I don't feel the least bit guilty partaking, because I've worn out many vinyl albums. I've worn out many albums twice, and the Beatles white album three times.
17 posted on 08/09/2002 9:22:55 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: kylaka
For me, Pink Floyd's Dark Side Of The Moon is my most worn-out album. I must have bought that album six times over the past 25 years in vinyl, 8-track, cassette tape and CD. I also own just about all of their other albums. I think that gives me carte blanche (at least morally) to download anything by Pink Floyd I want!
18 posted on 08/09/2002 9:33:27 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76; dts32041
You know, I've been railing against the "buggy whip maker" RIAA and "Foghorn Leghorn" Hollings for some time now, but I never really thought of that aspect of the argument until you guys mentioned it.

Now I realize that most of the MP3s I have downloaded are songs that I have purchased in many cases more than once.

Interesting.

19 posted on 08/09/2002 9:48:10 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: one_particular_harbour
Hollywood mogols and record co.s want to make every H. S. or college kid a criminal if they download an mp3 or a movie. Their greed for more media sales and Congress's need for money contributions trumps your rights and puts your kids in jail.
20 posted on 08/10/2002 4:40:09 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: kylaka
SHuuuuuuu. Let's keep usenet our little secret!
21 posted on 08/10/2002 4:47:14 PM PDT by UncleSam
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To: UncleSam
Okey Dokey. BTW what mp3 player do you use? After three years, and several 100 gig drives later, I just came across one that blows my socks off. It's light years ahead of all the others when you gotta manage 75,000 clips.
22 posted on 08/10/2002 8:33:57 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: GeneD
Terrorists are using the illegal trafficking of music to fund their activities.

Time for Ashcroft to "Roll".

23 posted on 08/10/2002 8:50:22 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: GeneD
The difficulty here could be that peer to peer is more or less the same thing as "home use" or "fair use."

It has recognized for years that it is legal for two people to "swap" tapes of music for their own personal use (ie, "I'll trade you a copy of 'the Rising' for a copy of 'Yankee Fox trot Hotel'").

Peer to peer is basically the same thing, only over the internet.

Therefore, I suspect a court may rule that such activity is perfectly legal.
24 posted on 08/29/2002 8:24:46 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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