Massillon officer, suspect killed in chase, shootout

The Canton Repository (OHIO) ^ | Saturday, August 10, 2002 | LORI MONSEWICZ and ROBERT WANG Repository staff writers

[lavaroise]

What immigration issue? I must have missed that from the article.

Actualy a Park Ranger was recently shot by a smuggler on the Mexican border. For some reason this is not big news around here.

[Larry Lucido]

No one is more pro law enforcement than I.....

I've read your posts and agree, and appreciate that. I also appreciate your view of the problem of illegal immigration. The logical fallacy raised in your post is that no legitimate law enforcement may proceed while the problem of illegals continues.

[July 4th]

Anyone who pulls a gun on cops over a traffic stop is not a Freeper. Thanks, AM

100% accurate. Thanks for clearing that up for some others around here.

[Larry Lucido]

Actualy a Park Ranger was recently shot by a smuggler on the Mexican border. For some reason this is not big news around here.

There are 153 posts on that thread, and I read the article this morning. Apparently, it is new around here. My prayers for the Park Ranger too.

[dirtboy]

The other thread contained legitimate information and discussion. If there were individual posts advocating cop killing, then they could easily have been pulled.

I was personally sickened by the freepers who tried to justify what happened. There was NO Constitutional basis for that action. I respect people who put their own lives at risk to challenge laws, such as the guy who strapped on a sidearm in Denver to challenge Colorado's laws about open carry. No one was hurt, the point was made, and now it's in the courts as a test case. But pretending that the Constitution does not allow the states to set their own speed limits, or enforce such, is bullsh** - pure and simple..

[Larry Lucido]

new = news

[Timesink]

If there were individual posts advocating cop killing, then they could easily have been pulled.

There wasn't, not a single post. The closest anyone had come to anything that could even be slightly construed as a possible "cop killing might be okay" message were the people that said they were sorry to see both the nut and the officer dead.

[dirtboy]

Actualy a Park Ranger was recently shot by a smuggler on the Mexican border. For some reason this is not big news around here.

Another tasteless point. This has NOTHING, NOTHING,

FRIGGIN' NOTHING

to do with immigration. Why are you trying to make political points from a tragedy? I thought only Democrats were that low. Sadly, I guess I was mistaken...

[PLMerite]

I know that each of the (few) times I've ever been pulled over, one of the first things that comes to mind to say to the cop is "there are people being robbed, raped and murdered around here (and in my area that's very true), don't you have anything better to do?"

But the traffic stops are revenue-enhancing...

[Timesink]

Anyone who pulls a gun on cops over a traffic stop is not a Freeper.

Not anymore, at least.

[Dan from Michigan]

Okay, I've seen "Czech handgun" and "high-powered semi-autmatic weapon." What's what?

A Makarov?

[dirtboy]

There wasn't, not a single post. The closest anyone had come to anything that could even be slightly construed as a possible "cop killing might be okay" message were the people that said they were sorry to see both the nut and the officer dead.

Bull. There were posts that clearly insinuated that the shooting may have been justified. And posts that agreed with the position of the guy who shot the cop, that there was no Constitutional authority for a traffic stop, when that is bullcrap.

Most of the time, I am proud to call myself a member of this forum. But the occasional day rolls around when some of the people on this site make me sick. This is one of those days...

[Larry Lucido]

I agree that no posts advocated cop killing on the other thread. I do think, though, that the name "Mumia" could have easily been subsituted for the suspect's name in some of the posts that were the most sympathetic to the alleged "patriot".

[Shooter 2.5]

A number one rule in politics is that you never, ever give your opponent something he can use against you.
DU activists post here. That doesn't make them Freepers.

[Friedrich Hayek]

I know that each of the (few) times I've ever been pulled over, one of the first things that comes to mind to say to the cop is "there are people being robbed, raped and murdered around here (and in my area that's very true), don't you have anything better to do?"

The first thing that comes to my mind when I get pulled over is, "These poor cops have to deal with the dregs of society on a daily basis. Since I'm not a criminal, I better just cooperate with the cop and let him get on with more important business."

[Shooter 2.5]

My prayers and thoughts to the brave officer and his family.

[Dan from Michigan]

I don't know what the reason Mr Matthews did what he did, but because of his actions, two kids have no father anymore.

I have no sympathy for Don Matthews. There is a right way and wrong way to handle things. The cop wasn't trying to kill him. He was stopping him for speeding.

THE ONLY time shooting a cop is right is in self-defense. This was not self-defense. This was murder.

[Larry Lucido]

Not anymore, at least.

And never was, in the true sense of the word.

He'll also never pull a gun on a cop again.

[PLMerite]

I know there are "Cz" handguns, but the other quote implied something a little bigger, like maybe an "assault rifle" or something.

I don't trust the press to know about weapons, or to care about accuracy.

And I still wanna know what transpired at the original stop.