[StockAyatollah]

Rather than ad hominum attacks on Charley, why not disucss his ideas.

GalvestonBeachcomber: I am sure you meant to reply to the ad hominers, since I agree with Charley. But don't expect anything other than name calling. Charley's reasoning appears to be beyond them.

[sam_paine]

I dunno, StockA, I think the following is something for you to ponder....

How would you feel if the president of China announced that the United States was part of an axis of evil, was a threat to its neighbors, had gassed its own people (Davidians at Waco) and therefore China was going to see to it that there is a change of regime in the United States?

Perhaps if Pres. Bush dissolved the Congress, instituted martial law, and gassed a bunch of people in Michigan in response to their uprising....maybe you'd be pleased to have the Chinese military support an armed revolt???

I support the French intervening for regime change in the first revolution. I kinda think it was a good thing that the Allies marched to Berlin in WWII, rather than settling for containment of Hitler after liberating the rest of Europe.

Perhaps yourself and Chas have not completely thought out your position in the face of history.

[john in missouri]

My post was simply a brief commentary on this article, which is so full of lies, mischaracterizations, and ignorant statements it would make Bill Clinton blush. Actually, I originally thought about writing a point-by-point analysis and refutation, but it's really not worth my time.