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Why the abandonment of principle by the president and O'Neill? Because neither wants to be in the wheelhouse when the ship hits the reef.

The sooner Greenspan and the politicians let JPM and Citi sink, the better off the whole world would be. Taxpayers are bailing out those corrupt bankers again.

Richard W.

1 posted on 08/14/2002 1:03:51 PM PDT by arete
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FYI

Comments and opinions welcome.

Richard W.

2 posted on 08/14/2002 1:05:25 PM PDT by arete
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To: arete
This is probably why Democrats will now back off bashing Coporate America...

they are understanding that some of the biggest offenders are from their own party.

3 posted on 08/14/2002 1:06:44 PM PDT by what's up
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Yea, Pat, They didn't want you so we get this group in office. Had you ever taken us down this road the pubbies would have impeached you but with these (R)s - They bloat the gov, borders open, ready to war with anyone. The best caper was keeping these thugs from the last administration from ANY prosecution thus become willing accomplises in thuggery while all along saying consequences do have actions. That's a nice legacy to leave. But no, Pat, you were NOT a puppet to the NWO so they had to villify you continuously. You are still my president in exile.
5 posted on 08/14/2002 1:25:53 PM PDT by Digger
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To: arete
Related article:

Rubin Where Art Thou?

Some excerpts:

Many political obsevers have been clamoring for Robert Rubin to return as Treasury Secretary but not even he could reinflate the burst bubble his policies helped to create.

Rubin helped to orchestrate the bailout of Mexico and South Korea, and advised the International Monetary Fund (IMF) on the Russian, Brazilian, and Southeast Asian financial crises. All in all, an estimated $250 billion in international loans went to prop-up faltering currencies and restructure debts.

While it is not immediately clear why bailouts would help prop up the dollar, as distinguished financial economist Allan Meltzer has noted, support for exchange rates “gives the people who want dollars a better price at which to buy them” as they have to pay less of their own currency for every dollar purchased. As Meltzer says, “Give people more opportunity to leave and on better terms, and more will leave.” As a result nearly all of these nations have larger international debts than before the bailout and the dollar appreciated following each intervention.

In addition, the infusion of cash allowed the developing countries to continue to service the debt owed to international bankers like Banc of America, JP Morgan Chase, HSBC, and Citigroup. Often the loans were restructured, but this did not matter to the Wall Street speculators since they would charge banking fees and a commission for their troubles. Rubin was a hero to his former colleagues as IMF and Treasury bailouts attenuated the default risk on highly speculative loans. Bankers got the high-yields that accompany high-risk investments and very little of the actual risk.

7 posted on 08/14/2002 1:36:42 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: arete
Debt piled higher and deeper, no way out but to pile it up until it all comes tumbling down.

I trust that Bush will do a number on the terrorists during his watch. Perhaps he couldn't have done all that much, like going into Afghanistan, until the public was behind him. Now we are, and he is rolling.

And he's doing a pretty good job of pushing back the rolling tide of liberalism that is strangling this fine country in the long term, though that battle will continue as long as America lives. For each opportunity to take a conservative stand that the Bush Bashers are quick to notice Bush has missed, there is another action he has taken in the Right direction, that Clinton or Gore would not have.

But the other biggie for him will be this debt, foreign and domestic, public and private. Someday, I suspect in the next few years, maybe sooner, it will come rushing down like a huge avalanche, taking out a few large banks and sharply reducing the supply of liquid capital. Most of our liquid capital, our money, isn't anything more than a figment of some banks imagination. Not only no gold backing it, but not even any greenbacks or even any demand account checking deposits. For each dollar deposited in a bank, it can loan ten or twenty more. Those dollars are spent, at that bank or some other bank, creating more deposits that leverage more loans. It's called the fractional reserve system, and its how banks manage our nations money.

This keeps up until the bank gets scared, or broke.

As we will be seeing, someday soon.

8 posted on 08/14/2002 1:41:00 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: arete
the US is not bailing out Brazil...its handing money to the lenders...
11 posted on 08/14/2002 2:03:51 PM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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The sooner Greenspan and the politicians let JPM and Citi sink, the better off the whole world would be.

They will never let them sink while they still have the power to intervene. JPM and Citi are the government.

15 posted on 08/14/2002 3:15:09 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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