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Reuters ^ | Fri Aug 16, 6:18 PM ET | Gail Appleson

Posted on 08/16/2002 5:00:15 PM PDT by TechJunkYard

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Record Labels Sue Internet Providers over Site
Fri Aug 16, 6:18 PM ET

By Gail Appleson

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The world's largest record companies sued major Internet service and network providers on Friday, alleging their routing systems allow users to access the China-based Listen4ever.com Web site and unlawfully copy musical recordings.

The copyright infringement suit, filed in Manhattan federal court, seeks a court order requiring the defendants to block Internet communications that travel through their systems to and from the Listen4ever site. The suit says the plaintiffs have not been able to determine who owns the Web site.

Plaintiffs in the suit include such major labels as UMG Recordings, a unit of Vivendi Universal, Sony Music Entertainment, a unit of Sony Corp ( news - web sites) .; The RCA Records Label, a unit of Bertelsmann AG ( news - web sites)'s BMG; and Warner Brothers Records, a unit of AOL Time Warner .

Defendants in the suit are AT&T Broadband Corp., a unit of AT&T ; Cable & Wireless USA, a unit of Cable & Wireless, Sprint Corp ., Advanced Network Services and UUNET Technologies, a unit of WorldCom .

The suit alleges that the Listen4ever site enables Internet users to download music from a centralized location containing thousands of files. This allows them to make unlawful copies of as many recordings as they choose.

The suit alleges that Listen4ever uses offshore servers located in the People's Republic of China to host the Web site through which the illegal copying occurs. The plaintiffs allege that Listen4ever provides its services to Internet users in the United States through backbone routers owned and operated by the defendants.

According to the suit the artists whose works are being unlawfully copied and distributed through Listen4ever are: Christina Aguilera, Bruce Springsteen, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Eric Clapton, Barbara Streisand, Lenny Kravitz and Whitney Houston.

The suit alleges that the Listen4ever site also features albums that have not yet been commercially released. For instance, it alleges that the most recent album by artist Mary J. Blige, "Dance for Me," was available on the site before released to stores on August 13.

The suit states that the Listen4ever operators also seem to be based in China. However, the plaintiffs said that "strikingly absent" from the site is any indication of the persons or entity who owns it.

The recording companies said the only information they have been able to find is that the domain name appears to have been registered to an individual in Tianjin, China. Even the site's links for contacting operators sends e-mail to an anonymous Yahoo! e-mail account.

The suit states that despite Listen4ever's connections to China, the site uses a U.S. domain name, is written entirely in English, appears to target an American audience by focusing on U.S. works and does not appear to feature Chinese music.

"Listen4ever has clearly located itself in China to avoid the ambit of United States copyright law," the suit said.

The suit is the latest in a long-term attack by record labels on Web sites and services that allow trading of digital music files. Such offerings, like Napster ( news - web sites) and Scour, have been hit with massive lawsuits claiming billions of dollars in damages from violated copyrights.

The labels have blamed file-sharing on weak sales and lower profits, and the music business has, over the last year, started making its own heavy forays into digital music as a way to try and capture some of the cost savings of online distribution while still generate revenue for their works.


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So, not only does the RIAA want the right to hack into OUR computers, they want to censor OUR Internet too.
1 posted on 08/16/2002 5:00:15 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: *tech_index
Bump!
2 posted on 08/16/2002 5:02:11 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: TechJunkYard
.. the plaintiffs said that "strikingly absent" from the site is any indication of the persons or entity who owns it. The recording companies said the only information they have been able to find is that the domain name appears to have been registered to an individual in Tianjin, China.

Geez... anyone can look that stuff up...


[kdj@Sarah kdj]$ host listen4ever.com
listen4ever.com has address 61.136.61.40
[kdj@Sarah kdj]$ whois 61.136.61.40@whois.apnic.net
[whois.apnic.net]

inetnum:     61.136.61.0 - 61.136.61.255
netname:     TJDT-BUREAU-TJ
descr:       Data Communication Bureau , Tianjin
descr:       HeBei Dict
descr:       Tianjin city
country:     CN
admin-c:     HZ19-AP
tech-c:      HZ19-AP
mnt-by:      MAINT-CHINANET-TJ
changed:     lilulu@public.tpt.tj.cn 20010809
source:      APNIC

person:      huang zheng
address:     76 NO, ShiZiLin Street ,HeBei district of Tianjin,China
country:     CN
phone:       +86-22-24459190
fax-no:      +86-22-24454499
e-mail:      apnic@swd.online.tj.cn
nic-hdl:     HZ19-AP
mnt-by:      MAINT-CHINANET-TJ
changed:     apnic@swd.online.tj.cn 20011127
source:      APNIC

3 posted on 08/16/2002 5:10:30 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: TechJunkYard
This will probably get thrown out of court. All Internet providers do is provide a connection to the Internet. How can they be expected to control where people go?

This has the logic of suing the phone companies for people using their telephone to conduct illegal business or suing the postal service for people mailing and receiving stolen goods.

How about if we sue the record companies for selling music with profane lyrics to kids?

4 posted on 08/16/2002 5:13:20 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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It's ridiculous for the music industry to attempt to limit sources where people can get music online... didn't we go through all this already w/the Napster case? all the files are shared and are available through thousands of sites online... it's impossible to regulate everything.
5 posted on 08/16/2002 5:26:41 PM PDT by Trinity451
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it's impossible to regulate everything.

That won't stop the control-freaks of the planet from trying.

6 posted on 08/16/2002 5:28:57 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: TechJunkYard
Considering the state of popular music these days, this actually comes as no surprise. Nine times out of ten when you purchase any CD, perhaps one or two good songs are on it; the rest is just filler. All you have to do is go down to your local Used CD store, and you'll see the evidence of what I'm talking about.

So yes, the Music Industry indeeds wants their cut of the internet, because the majority of the public is unwilling to fork over $20. for music that is either warmed-over retreads of '60s or '70s hits, or 'concept' albums that would put you fast to sleep.
7 posted on 08/16/2002 5:47:34 PM PDT by T Lady
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To: SamAdams76
Not only has the RIAA just exposed an obscure .mp3 site that hardly anyone knew about, they're going up against some big names with deep pockets... AT&T, Sprint...

Dimwits.

Agreed: this suit is going nowhere. But it might be fun to watch.

8 posted on 08/16/2002 5:49:34 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: T Lady
.. the majority of the public is unwilling to fork over $20. for music that is either warmed-over retreads of '60s or '70s hits, or 'concept' albums that would put you fast to sleep.

You've got that right. Even with the royalties they make on BLANK tape and audio CDs and $20 for a disc of trash, they're still not satisfied.

9 posted on 08/16/2002 5:57:44 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: TechJunkYard
*cough* corporate death penalty for RIAA *cough*
10 posted on 08/16/2002 6:38:25 PM PDT by dheretic
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To: TechJunkYard
The labels have blamed file-sharing on weak sales and lower profits

Gee, and all this time I thought it was because the "music" they produce is crap.

11 posted on 08/17/2002 10:56:40 AM PDT by Mr_Magoo
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To: TechJunkYard
The RIAA are candlemakers looking at the advent of electricity. Their industry is doomed and yet they hold on to the pathetic hope that they can do anything about it. They're wrong about that.
12 posted on 08/17/2002 11:06:43 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: T Lady
More to the point: The essence of the RIAA's problem is that they are soon to be completely unnecessary. They used to have control over all music distribution, because pressing LP's and CD's and getting them into stores required enormous capital investment. Now, however, any artist with a computer and a website can record, mix, remix and distribute their own stuff.

Many do already. The big "industry machinery" of the recording industry is being relegated to the role of a parasite that artists realize they don't need anymore. That's a far bigger threat to them than the peer-to-peer sharings of consumers.

13 posted on 08/17/2002 11:17:21 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ramius
Great point, considering how the "Industry" packages and markets these artists (prime example: Britney Spears)like sexual Flavors Of The Month; it's truly no wonder really talented artists fail to get any recognition and prefer the technology route you spoke of.
14 posted on 08/17/2002 12:22:36 PM PDT by T Lady
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To: Mr_Magoo
See Courtney Love does the math. The artists only get ripped off by the major labels. Where's their incentive when they get charged for all of the production and promotion costs?
15 posted on 08/17/2002 2:15:18 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: TechJunkYard
Absolutely. I think I'll stop by later today.

Only to download music I alreay own on tape and such. Of course.
16 posted on 08/18/2002 3:06:34 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: TechJunkYard
Boycott the record labels until they leave us alone!

Make it clear to Hollyweird that, if they are afraid of losing some business to Internet "piracy," fighting their consumers will cost them all business!

17 posted on 08/18/2002 3:44:45 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: dheretic

18 posted on 08/19/2002 5:35:54 PM PDT by TechJunkYard
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To: TechJunkYard
Another great place to find music I did not previously know about. Thanks!
19 posted on 08/19/2002 5:38:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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