Bystanders to Mass Murder

Harvard edu via Washington Post ^ | April 21, 2002 | Samantha Power

[Leper Messiah]

Last week, for the first time in history, a Western government resigned because it was a bystander to genocide.

On Tuesday the popular Dutch prime minister, Wim Kok, and his cabinet stepped down in response to a 7,600-page report that faulted the Dutch government and army for sending a flimsy posse of some 400 Dutch peacekeepers on an "ill-conceived and virtually impossible" mission to protect Bosnian Muslims in the U.N. safe area of Srebrenica.

In July 1995 the safe area became the most dangerous spot on earth when Bosnian Serb Gen. Ratko Mladic strolled into town. After meeting little resistance from Dutch soldiers on the ground or NATO bombers overhead, Mladic presided over a 10-day killing spree, systematically executing every Muslim man and boy he could lay his hands on -- more than 7,000 in all. Kok, who was prime minister at the time of the massacre, reportedly burst into tears when he read the Dutch report.

Kok's resignation marked the first time in our age of genocide when an outside power has paid a tangible political price for its sins of omission. It is a refreshing act that testifies to the tirelessness of Dutch journalists and citizens.

[Leper Messiah]

Samantha Power has a book out called "A Problem From Hell: America and the age of Genocide" I am watching a discussion on c-span 2 right now where she is talking about this book that was taped in March of this year.

I was searching the web for some information about her and found this interesting editorial.

[LenS]

What are you, her book agent? *g*

This article is four months old.

[joan]

Kok, who was prime minister at the time of the massacre, reportedly burst into tears when he read the Dutch report.

Kok's resignation marked the first time in our age of genocide when an outside power has paid a tangible political price for its sins of omission. It is a refreshing act that testifies to the tirelessness of Dutch journalists and citizens.

WAS THERE A MASSACRE IN SREBRENICA? WHAT REALLY HAPPENED AND WHY?

EMPEROR'S CLOTHES editor Nico Varkevisser in Amsterdam reports that in resigning, Dutch Prime Minister Wim Kok in fact staged a bit of media theater.

First, Kok had stated his intention to move out of national politics and into the International arena before the report was issued.

Second, the resignation comes shortly before previously scheduled national elections.

Mr. Varkevisser feels that Kok staged this pseudo-resignation as a gift to NATO and the War Crimes Tribunal. In exchange, Kok hopes to become a new star (like Javier Solana) on the International scene, serving the Empire.

[LenS]

Kok, who was prime minister at the time of the massacre, reportedly burst into tears when he read the Dutch report.

God, what a pathetic euroweenie. Like tears earn him forgiveness after the fact. You don't deploy troops that you don't intend to use. The Dutch have modern jets. They could have easily sent their jets into a nearby airbase and launched bombing raids. But that would have meant actively resisting evil. And if there's one thing a Euroweenie hates is resisting evil.

[LenS]

I was wondering how long it would take for the Serb apologists to appear and claim that the Serbs were always the victims and that they'd never harmed a single person (unless they really, really, really deserved it).

[joan]

Alright, then give a list of those who have been identified as dead, and a forensic report with some amount of professionalism.

3,010 of the missing Srebrenica men were later on the OSCE’s voting lists. This page lists, in alphabetical order, 350 full names, followed by their respective father’s names. Which of them can you find as IDENTIFIED among the dead? There’s been 7 years time, and a terrific amount of international attention and money thrown at the alleged massacre - plenty of time to prove if something occurred to fit the war hype.

Given that 3,010 is roughly 40% of the 7,000 - 8,000 figure, what would be the statistical odds that none of the, maybe 200 identified, don’t match up with the missing men.

Given that Bosnian men have been declared dead while all the while living with their families in Bosnia, and that neither they nor any of their family, friends, and the Bosnian government - which brutally tortured and jailed Serbs into confessing to murders they didn’t commit - why should anyone expect any living Bosnian men, erroneously declared dead, to step forward. In addition, other Bosnian Muslims who may know of their existence have demonstrated no proclivity to come forward with the truth, if truth means exonerating Serbs.

Serbs were accused of killing two brothers in the Spring of 1992, yet those two brothers went to Sarajevo and fought in the Bosnian Muslim army - were on the payroll. The Bosnian government made an international case out of the trial, so lack of publicity can’t be considered as why no one was aware. Years and years went by, and only when one of the brothers went to make a quick deal buying up many Serbs’ cattle and sheep as they were leaving, did a former neighbor - who’s nephew was one of those imprisoned for this Muslim livestock buyer’s alleged murder - was the truth discovered.

JAILED SERBS' `VICTIMS' FOUND ALIVE, EMBARRASSING BOSNIA

By CHRIS HEDGES

c.1997 N.Y. Times News Service

SARAJEVO, Bosnia-Herzegovina—In a major embarrassment for the Bosnian government, two Muslim brothers, whose supposed slaying was used as evidence in the most publicized war crimes trial of the war to condemn two Bosnian Serbs to death, have been found living in a Sarajevo suburb.

In other words, unless an honest person, who could also recognize the missing Srebrenica men on sight, happens upon a falsely declared dead person, no one would ever know.

Even though you may believe the entire war hype, let’s suppose several of the missing men are living. Then suppose you passed them on the street - would you know them from any other stranger? Do you know what a single one of those men looks like? Certainly, if they wanted to, they could hide in plain sight amongst strangers.

[Hoplite]

15,000 men were orignially counted as missing, and roughly half of them made it to Tuzla, where, over the following years they were accounted for through various means, leaving us with ~5,000 in the morgue at Tuzla and ~2,000 still hidden by the Bosnian Serb forces in their attempt to cover up their crime, though that number is being brought down every year with new discoveries at places such as Kamenica where 200+ victims were recently discovered.

Helge Brunborg has done some research on the matter, and her preliminary results are found here, though I imagnine you will manage to ignore this as it is counter to your purposes and the author was called for the prosecution during the Krstic trial.

You remember, the trial where Krstic tried to pin the massacre on some other Serbs rather than being a man and accepting responsibility for his actions.

Come to think of it, I wonder why the defence in the Krstic case didn't rely on Emperor's Clothes in the same manner you do?

Ha ha, that was just a little joke.

[LenS]

You'd have been good at Nuremberg. You'd have argued that the Jews were still alive and walking the streets, so the brave Mr. Himmler should be released.

[Red Jones]

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[joan]

“so the brave Mr. Himmler should be released.”

Actually, it was Himmler’s idea, during WWII, to use the Muslim religion as a tool in the fight against the Serbs. He promoted the raising of divisions of Bosnian Muslims and Albanian Muslims. See, certain Germans of those days knew how to manipulate Muslims into doing dirty work such as breaking up countries and genociding those who didn’t cooperate fully with Germans, those whom the Germans viewed as lesser peoples and in their way. If Muslims are fanatical, or have been primed to be that way, they are wound up and ready to spring. Jihad!

Now, the U.S. recruited many Nazi intelligence officers and other officials to help against the cold war – starting even before WWII ended. The CIA took pages from the Nazi books when they used Muslims to help break up the Soviet Union (Afghanistan), and Muslims (along with other separatists) were used to destroy Yugoslavia in a similar way.

The destruction of Yugoslavia was awaited for a long time, but it was only after the Soviet Union was receding, and when Germany got onboard (after it unified) that it began full steam ahead.

Anyhow, read about your man Himmler who had a similar mindset to your own – a man who saw nothing wrong with Muslims terrorizing and beheading Serbs. And just like in WWII, as in the 1990's, Albanian Muslims committed atrocities in Bosnia. In fact, another FReeper, Ichabod Walrus, belives that Albanians killing priests in Bosnia (I think he mentioned this happening in Tuzla) - both Catholic and Orthodox - might have sparked some of the fighting between the Croats and Muslims in certain parts of Bosnia.

13th Waffen-Gebirgs Division der SS "Handschar"

The intention for the raising of a division containing Bosnian Muslims was put originally put forward in 1942 but it was not until the the spring of 1943 that the division was eventually raised. Himmler was quite eager to raise this division, although it went against his beliefs on racial purity. His reasons were twofold. Firstly he believed that the Muslim religion was a useful tool in motivating these men as it preached the virtues dying in a holy war (Jihad) and other useful teachings…

As well as this the 1st Battalion, 28th Regiment of the 13th SS which was composed of ethnic-Albanian Muslims from Kosovo had not been committed to anti-partisan operations but was still in Bosnia. Himmler ordered it to be part of the new 21st Waffen-Gebirgs-Division der SS Skanderbeg.