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Home-schooling illegal in California?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 8/19/02 | Art Moore

Posted on 08/19/2002 6:08:30 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

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What was the people's government?
1 posted on 08/19/2002 6:08:30 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
For related thoughts, please see:

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2 posted on 08/19/2002 6:32:22 AM PDT by fporretto
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"They can say anything they want to, but the law has not changed," she said. "That is the important thing."

This is the case with any law. The police, the county commissioner, any "official" can say whatever they desire in an attempt to get you to comply with what they are trying to achieve. It is incumbent upon the individual to know the law, and stop relying on the pronouncements of "officials", "authorities", and "lawyers" to tell them what is, and what is not, law. Only when individuals know the law, will "the beast" will be forced back into its constitutional shackles.

Boonie Rat

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3 posted on 08/19/2002 6:36:12 AM PDT by Boonie Rat
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To: 2Jedismom; homeschool mama
Homeschool ping
4 posted on 08/19/2002 6:36:50 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
To HELL with California.
Come to Texas! Loose the personal income tax... and home-school your children with the assistance of your state.

My home-schooled daughter turns 20 next week, and will graduate Cum Laude in Bio-Chemistry from Texas A&M University in December.

5 posted on 08/19/2002 6:47:26 AM PDT by grobdriver
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If there is a homeschool ping list, how do I get added to the list?
6 posted on 08/19/2002 7:26:57 AM PDT by mrsppmrxky
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As the daughter, granddaughter, niece, grandniece, and sister-in-law of California schoolteachers, I believe that the teaching profession has a vested interest in making parents believe that homeschooling is illegal and private schooling is stupid, if not immoral! I have heard this line of baloney all my life.

It's too bad that I bought it when it counted. If I had it to do over again, I would homeschool my four. Certainly, in this day and age, homeschooling seems like a viable option.

7 posted on 08/19/2002 7:57:31 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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I believe that the teaching profession has a vested interest in making parents believe that homeschooling is illegal and private schooling is stupid, if not immoral!

What do you think government believes?

8 posted on 08/19/2002 8:10:49 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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The state is going to try to pick off homeschoolers one by one. The last thing they want is homeschoolers to go to court to stop the harrassment, however. There are so many issues involved. Is the state going to force your child to go to public school when you use a relgious curriculum in your own private school? Will they provide a religious curriculum for you? Do parents have the right to decide where their children will be educated, meaning does the state have the right to insist that your child go to public school? Wasn't that settled in the 20's when a state tried to ban relgious schools? The students are exercising their right to go to private school -- their private homeschools.
9 posted on 08/19/2002 8:18:57 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: mrsppmrxky
I have no idea, but if there is a Homeschool ping list, I want on too!
10 posted on 08/19/2002 8:32:54 AM PDT by Berthold
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To: mrsppmrxky; Berthold; 2Jedismom
I believe that 2Jedismom has a homeschool ping list, which is why I always ping her when I see these threads. I'd contact her to be put on it.
11 posted on 08/19/2002 8:38:58 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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This is pure deception, contends home-school legal advocate Roy Hanson, director of the Lincoln, Calif.-based Private and Home Educators of California.

These folks need to be supported, people. They're the legislative watchdogs who are truly guarding the gate for us. Email me if you want to donate to them.

12 posted on 08/19/2002 8:52:01 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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What would be so wrong with a state requiring a home-school teacher/parent to pass some sort of basic literacy/comprehension test?
13 posted on 08/19/2002 8:58:56 AM PDT by stuartcr
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Come to Texas! Loose the personal income tax... and home-school your children with the assistance of your state.

Oh, California is more than willing to "assist" you in your homeschooling....as long as you do it through them. This government "assistance" is turning out the be a huge fracture in the homechooling community:

http://www.californiahomeschool.net/legis/articles/biglie.htm

14 posted on 08/19/2002 9:01:00 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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What would be so wrong with a state requiring a home-school teacher/parent to pass some sort of basic literacy/comprehension test?

I see your point. Basic literacy is a good thing, and necessary in a teacher, right? So how could this minimal standard be wrong? I think this view is dangerously naive in the field of political reality.

A test like that is not going to be drawn up by some impartial party interested solely in the education of children. It's going to be drawn up, directly or indirectly, by the NEA. The NEA's motivation is to outlaw homeschooling, because it is a threat to their members.

It would be the equivalent of having the Democratic National Committee draw up a basic civics test before any Republican Congressmen can be seated. Basic civics is a good thing, right? So how could such a minimal standard be wrong?

The other obvious problem is that every study I'm aware of shows homeschoolers outperforming those in government schools. Wouldn't common sense dictate that perhaps the basic literacy test ought to be applied to the underperforming public schools before applying them to the better performing homeschooled?

15 posted on 08/19/2002 9:11:43 AM PDT by Snuffington
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What would be so wrong with a state requiring a home-school teacher/parent to pass some sort of basic literacy/comprehension test?

Camel...nose...tent.

16 posted on 08/19/2002 9:16:40 AM PDT by Freakazoid
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I'm homeschooled and live in MA, another tough state for homeschoolers. Luckily, I live in a city which isn't so harsh. Still can be a little difficult. When people ask me what school I go to I'm almost reluctant to say I'm homeschooled. I'm not ashamed by any means. But I don't know if the person is a busybody who might do something. But usually they say "oh, homeschooled. Interesting" or "homeschooled, how nice" and leave it at that. Still, many people believe those homeschooling stereotypes, that only rich people homeschool (we are NOT rich), and that we are basically hermits who never see anyone and never see anything beyond our homes and will be unprepared for adulthood, another lie. All this is made tougher by the fact that all the school systems are terrifed of homeschooling and try to make our lives tough.

Whatever. Next year I'll be sixteen and the school department will have to legally leave me alone. But I have four younger siblings. But we've made it this far with nothing happening. But we have to keep an eye out. There are people out there who hate large, Christian (we're Catholic to be exact), homeschooled familes and will be glad to tear them apart and make a quick buck doing it.

17 posted on 08/19/2002 9:25:11 AM PDT by baseballfanjm
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I only say this because I personally know of two families in central Fl, where the wife/teacher, can hardly read herself, and are just not very both very poor at anything less than remedial level math. I'm sure there are others.
18 posted on 08/19/2002 9:26:16 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Freakazoid
I have no idea what that meant.
19 posted on 08/19/2002 9:27:03 AM PDT by stuartcr
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I don't think anyone with half a brain would have a problem passing the teaching proficiency test for CA. It's a joke! They probably wouldn't want to require people to take that cause they know they would all pass easily! I think I read it's about at an 8th grade level! I saw a bunch of the questions one time, and they're TOO EZ!!
20 posted on 08/19/2002 9:29:06 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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