Home-schooling illegal in California?

WorldNetDaily ^ | 8/19/02 | Art Moore

[BJungNan]

If a couple of public school teachers I know are any indication of the competancy level, any idiot is qualified.

Really, after they get over their bellyaching about how underpaid they are for nine months of work at "only" $60,000 per year ("people just don't realize how hard it is to teach") and look at what they actually know...well, a rock comes to mind.

[ladylib]

The made parents in AZ pass a proficiency test at one time. The parents passed, the teachers didn't. The public students failed their tests in high numbers. The homeschoolers wiped the floor up with them. The state was so embarrassed it decided to do away with tests for parents and homeschoolers.

[Travis McGee]

What would be so wrong with a state requiring a home-school teacher/parent to pass some sort of basic literacy/comprehension test?

Sure, the poor ignorant parents might miss getting qualified in

"THE EVILS OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION",

"CONDOMS FOR KIDDIES",

"GAY PRIDE, 1 TO 69",

"ISLAM'S MORAL SUPERIORITY", and

"HOW CAPITOLISM IS DESTROYING THE EARTH".

[afraidfortherepublic]

What do you think government believes?

Government is the people and can believe noting beyond the propaganda it receives. IOW, if members of the governmental body are constantly harangued by the propoganda spewed by the NEA and AFT, they will be unable to make decisions that are not colored by the special interests of those unions.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Thanks for sharing your story, and congratulations on choosing wise parents. I wish you the best of luck in your future. I know you'll be successful.

[Snuffington]

I only say this because I personally know of two families in central Fl, where the wife/teacher, can hardly read herself, and are just not very both very poor at anything less than remedial level math. I'm sure there are others.

Don't let this cloud your judgement so terribly that you turn to the government for an answer. They're graduating illiterates every day in the government schools. In fact, odds are that the illiterate wife/teacher you mention holds a diploma from a government school.

[F16Fighter]

"If a couple of public school teachers I know are any indication of the competancy level, any idiot is qualified."

Same here...

The evidence suggests the NEA may even be recruiting "teachers" from various mental asylums. Apparently "credentials" from an institution is considered a "plus."

[SarahW]

Actually, I might trade that camel nose for the one already in my tent.

If I could take a competency test and then be done with state and local interference (annual notification, end-of-year evaluation. etc.) I would take it.

I feel sorry for folks in my state without bachelor's degrees in my state - they must create or buy, and have approved, curricula that follow state "standards of learning" in lockstep. I can set my own curriculum, although I am obligated to "describe" it to the local superintendant.


FWIW, I am confident most home-schooling parents could take any teacher-certification test and put most new teachers to shame. Those tests are ridiculously easy.

[moyden]

Every liberal is a Nazi thug.

Children are state property!

[B Knotts]

I only say this because I personally know of two families in central Fl, where the wife/teacher, can hardly read herself, and are just not very both very poor at anything less than remedial level math. I'm sure there are others.

They kinda sound like publik skool teecherz.

[Freakazoid]

Are you not familiar with the concept of the camel getting his nose under the tent? It's an idiom concerning the notion that once you let an intrusive entity get its "nose under the tent", the next thing you know you'll have the entire camel in there.

Government testing of parents is the nose under the tent. Next, they may be requiring us to use specified curricula and reporting student progress.

All of this indicates that government believes parents are not fit to educate their own children.

Do you have children? Are you fit to educate them?

[stuartcr]

Thanks, with regards to camels, I'm conceptually challenged. No kids, wouldn't want to.

[Freakazoid]

SarahW,
You have my condolences. What state are you in?

[citizen]

There's an old saying that once a camel gets his nose under the edge of the tent, the whole body will inevitably follow.

[SarahW]

Virginia. This is not the most restrictive state, but there is too much interference, IMHO.

[ladylib]

I know of an affirmative action principal of a middle school (bounced around all over the county, screws up everywhere she goes) who can't speak the King's English and who introduced an astronomer at an assembly as an "astrologist," which is not a word. Well, maybe in Swahili it is.

[wku man]

"Camel...nose...tent."

You're right. Let the government establish a toehold, sooner or later you'll get the whole boot.

I prefer Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[MEGoody]

"What would be so wrong with a state requiring a home-school teacher/parent to pass some sort of basic literacy/comprehension test?"

I can see why this sounds logical to you, but there are a couple of issues. First, what gives the state the right to determine that parents are incapable of educating their own kids? These are not the state's kids. Second, who deterimines what the test will cover? There's a lot of 'new age' crap being foisted upon students getting education degress that has nothing to do with truely educating a child. I wouldn't want to see parents being 'required' to have basic compehension of that kind of nonsense.

[Maigrey]

What would be so wrong with a state requiring a home-school teacher/parent to pass some sort of basic literacy/comprehension test?

The idea behind the "certification" of homeschooling parents is to quantify how many there are, and to "modify" the thinking and teaching of these kids.
And, as another poster mentioned, money is involved in these issues. More kids = more $$$ for the liberal agenda, such as sexual morality, feel-good towards all, and giving rather than building self-esteem.

Frankly, I wonder why anyone would willingly live in such a situation....

-Maigrey-

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

IOW, if members of the governmental body are constantly harangued by the propoganda spewed by the NEA and AFT, they will be unable to make decisions that are not colored by the special interests of those unions.

How many unions favor ANWAR? How many unions favor Davis's SUV legislation? How many firefighter unions favor their Clinton budget reductions?...