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Authorities in Homeschool Killings refuse to indict Paxil
Helena Independent Record ^ | 08/29/02 | CAROLYNN BRIGHT

Posted on 08/29/2002 6:18:57 AM PDT by hobbes1

Homeschool killings
By CAROLYNN BRIGHT, IR Staff Writer - 08/29/02

Officials try to squelch attempts to explain murder of 2 children.
As officials investigating the alleged murder of two Augusta youths by their mother earlier this week clamp down on details of the case, area residents have developed their own explanations for the tragedy.
Some newspaper reports quote sources who point accusatory fingers at the anti-depressant Paxil — a drug Jeanette Swanson’s mother said her daughter started taking only weeks before she called 911 stating that she shot her 10-year-old daughter Louisa, and her 14-year-old son, Swen.
Other conjecture circulates about the possible significance of an argument Swanson and her husband, Gene, are believed to have had the previous week over whether the two youngest of their four children should continue to be schooled at home or attend classes at public school as their mother wanted.
However, Undersheriff Cheryl Liedle said Wednesday that her office won’t offer up any hard and fast solutions to the questions swirling through the community about Swanson’s motive.
“We’re being very, very careful not to speculate until we have something solid — which we don’t,” she said. “If we did that, we’d be doing the same thing as the public is doing.”
Carroll College’s Father Jerry Lowney says such speculation on the part of community members shocked by recent events is only natural. Lowney is a professor of sociology with an emphasis in criminology.
“It’s natural to ask why when there is something unexplainable to them,” he said, adding that coping with such devastating news may be harder for residents of smaller communities where violent crime is less common than in larger communities.
After all, the case of a mother accused of shooting her children to death as they slept in their beds is a far cry from that of a 90-year-old man who dies from terminal cancer.
“We constantly pursue truth, but we never reach a total understanding of human behavior,” said Lowney.
For Lowney, understanding and accepting tragedy is a process — one he likens to the journey Americans are currently on after the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.
“We’ve got some answers and we’re still in the process,” he said.
Lowney said it’s important for area residents — those who know the Swanson family along with those who don’t — to allow themselves to grieve.
He added that it’s also necessary for those people touched by the crime to move from marker to marker on the route that leads to closure in their minds.
For some, it might be the resolution of Swanson’s murder charge. For others it may include the children’s funerals. The family plans to hold a private funeral service, a funeral home spokesperson said Wednesday.
Lowney added that area residents shouldn’t hesitate to look to their friends and neighbors for a helping hand in the process.
“We need to come together as a community to work out the grieving process, realizing there may not be an ultimate answer,” he said. “Sometimes we just need to let go and understand that tragedies happen. And we need to remember we can’t undo what occurred.”
For Lowney, where science abandons him in his search for answers, his faith steps in.
“We don’t know why (these things happen),” he said. “God only has the answers.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: antidepressant; homeschoolkillings; montana
Day 3 Followup.
1 posted on 08/29/2002 6:18:58 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
"Homeschool killings"

Gotta love that liberal agenda.

2 posted on 08/29/2002 6:25:09 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: Lil'freeper
Well, you wouldn't expect them to refer to it as the "Psycho-Mom killings," would you?
3 posted on 08/29/2002 6:28:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: hobbes1
Since when did you start reading the "Undependable Rectum?" LMAO.
4 posted on 08/29/2002 6:30:24 AM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: Larry Lucido
I can't seem to face up to the facts
I'm tense and nervous and I
Can't relax
I can't sleep 'cause my bed's on fire
Don't touch me I'm a real live wire

Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away

You start a conversation you can't even finish it.
You're talkin' a lot, but you're not sayin' anything.
When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed.
Say something once, why say it again?

Psycho Killer,
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
5 posted on 08/29/2002 6:34:45 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: CholeraJoe
A little birdie said you had enuff crap, so i thought I would poke around and see what was up there... ; )
6 posted on 08/29/2002 6:36:36 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
He added that it’s also necessary for those people touched by the crime to move from marker to marker on the route that leads to closure in their minds

Come again?

7 posted on 08/29/2002 6:42:03 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: hobbes1; galt-jw
The Great Falls Tribune ran the Paxil story yesterday and today not a peep. The "Undependable Rectum" also ran a story about Larry King Live, Good Morning America and Inside Edition wanting to talk to a local about the killings. Nice recap of all the wackos that live in these parts. I'd forgotten about the guy who shot the two guards at the US capital.

Hey galt. There really are a lot of wackos up here.

8 posted on 08/29/2002 6:45:09 AM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: Lil'freeper
"Homeschool killings"

It is absolutely ridiculous and biased to attempt to tie this tragedy into homeschooling...what if these parents had been known to argue over whether one of the kids should be allowed to become a vegetarian or something like that...would it be title "Vegan Killings" ?? (doubt it)

9 posted on 08/29/2002 6:46:47 AM PDT by twyn1
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To: SouthernFreebird
I think he's been listening to too much of the Amboy Dukes.
10 posted on 08/29/2002 6:47:04 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
The kids were in public schools. Had been for about a week. How convenient of them to forget to report that.
11 posted on 08/29/2002 6:51:33 AM PDT by asformeandformyhouse
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To: Larry Lucido
Well, you wouldn't expect them to refer to it as the "Psycho-Mom killings," would you?

Nawh, then we'd have to feel sorry for her like we had to for whats-her-bucket: the post-partum-psycho-mom killer.

Although, I can envision the day when the media forgets Yates had depression and reminds us that she homeschooled, too. The media will teach us that homeschooling is a function of parental instability/mental illness and we should rescue all of the children endangered by it and place them safely in public schools. Do it for the children!!

12 posted on 08/29/2002 6:52:31 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: twyn1
VEGAN KILLINGS!!

LOL- That'd be a story, now wouldn't it!

13 posted on 08/29/2002 6:53:28 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: CholeraJoe
The "Undependable Rectum" also ran a story

I didn't know that Bill Clinton's TV show was already on the air

14 posted on 08/29/2002 6:55:25 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b
ROTFL.
15 posted on 08/29/2002 6:57:15 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Sure, they won't in any way even suggest a link to possible side effects of Paxil, but they have absolutely no problem cementing it firmly and permanently to homeschooling.
16 posted on 08/29/2002 7:00:16 AM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
Yesterday's thread blaming Paxil. National expert blames side effects of depression medication
17 posted on 08/29/2002 7:02:44 AM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: All
Is best I recall, Columbine was never referred to in the media as "Public School Killings" or "Public school killers". Interesing that both the Columbine killers and this mother were on prescription drugs for mental problems.
18 posted on 08/29/2002 7:04:55 AM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
Many were. There is a definitive link between SSRIs and killings

In this Book

The author gives many detailed accounts of suicides and killings, including famous people, like: Del Shannon, Phil Hartman, Abbie Hoffman, Michael Hutchence -- as well as incidents where SSRI Drugs and their makers could be involved, including Princess Diana's death, the Clinton White House.

Most urgent in the book's clear, factual presentation, is how the latest rash of school shootings at Columbine, Oregon, Arkansas, Georgia, and so on, are undeniably linked to one of the gunmen being on Prozac, or another SSRI drug like Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Serzone, or even Ritalin.

The only school shootings and recent workplace massacres where SSRI drugs aren't implicated, is where there was a deliberate attempt by authorities, parents, or the media, to cover up the facts of the case. The recent UCSB car killing was by a kid with a long history of SSRI use, and the latest workplace massacre by McDermott in Massachusetts was a classic Prozac killing, fitting the pattern of actions to the letter -- all clearly revealed in this book.

Each chapter systematically covers shootings, killings, other violent acts, major and minor side effects, and other symptoms -- all backed up by real-life experiences of people in internet chat rooms. Later chapters expose how drug companies and the FDA colluded to rob people of fair, unbiased tests -- and how pay-offs, cover-ups, even buying out judges and juries, have all hidden the truth about these drugs.

Now in the latest school shootings, we see the media itself avoiding reporting the connection of these drugs to the killings -- and almost all big media companies are owned by conglomerates with close ties to drug companies!

SSRI drugs cause people to kill others in clearly recognizable patterns.

19 posted on 08/29/2002 7:20:23 AM PDT by hobbes1
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I have a lady friend who would occasionally use Prozac to help her through brief bouts of depression (3 or 4 times over a 12 year period). We are very close, and talk almost every day. She, at the recommendation of her sister, had decided to try Paxil during a particularly rough time in her life. She had already taken it for a couple of days when she told me about it.

I decided to do an internet search on Paxil. For the next couple of hours I read story after story of the most horrific personal accounts of people trying desperately to get off of the drug, but the withdrawal symptoms were so much worse than any psychological problems they had ever experienced. Most wanted off the drug, but simply couldn't handle the torture of withdrawal.

I called her, begging and pleading with her to please stop taking the drug immediately. Because she knows I am not prone to hyperbole, she quit taking it, but still had mild withdrawal symptoms after only a couple of doses.

I suggest anyone interested should do a google search on Paxil. The stories are numerous and frightening.
20 posted on 08/29/2002 9:09:30 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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