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AMERICA’S CHRISTIAN HERITAGE (Was America Founded by Christians or by Deists?)
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Posted on 08/29/2002 5:45:11 PM PDT by jstone78

AMERICA’S CHRISTIAN HERITAGE

Were our Founding Fathers Christian with a fervent love for the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Or were they primarily Deists, who only acknowledged the existence of a distant, impersonal god?

George Washington: His personal prayer book, written in his own handwriting, declares continual fidelity to the Lord Jesus Christ: "O most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ my merciful and loving Father, I acknowledge and confess my guilt, in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day."

John Marshall: Chief Justice of the Supreme Court described Washington: "Without making ostentatious professions of religion, he was a sincere believer in the Christian faith, and a truly devout man."

The Continental Congress, on September 11, 1777, recommended and approved that the Committee of Commerce "import 20,000 Bibles from Holland, Scotland, or elsewhere," because of the great need of the American people and the great shortage caused by the interruption of trade with England by the Revolutionary War.

John Adams: On March 6, 1789, President Adams called for a national day of fasting and prayer so that the nation might "call to mind our numerous offenses against the most high God, confess them before Him with the sincerest penitence, implore his pardoning mercy, through the Great Mediator and Redeemer, for our past transgression, and that through the grace of His Holy Spirit, we may be disposed and enabled to yield a more suitable obedience. . ."

John Quincy Adams: "The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity." (July 4, 1821)

John Jay: First Chief Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court: "Unto Him who is the author and giver of all good, I render sincere and humble thanks for His manifold and unmerited blessings, and especially for our redemption and salvation by His beloved Son."

Patrick Henry: In a letter to his sister Anne: "My heart is full. Perhaps I may never see you in this world. O may we meet in heaven, to which the merits of Jesus will carry those who love and serve Him."

George Mason: "Father" of the Bill of Rights; "My soul I resign into the hands of my Almighty Creator, whose tender mercies are all over His works, who hateth nothing that He hath made, and to the justice and wisdom of whose dispensations I willingly and cheerfully submit, humbly hoping from His unbounded mercy and benevolence, through the merits of my blessed Savior, a remission of my sins".

James Madison: "Chief Architect" of the U. S. Constitution, wrote in the margin of his Bible, "Christ's Divinity appears by St. John chapter XX, 2; 'And Thomas answered and said unto Him, my Lord and my God!' Resurrection testified to and witnessed by the Apostles, Acts IV, 33."

The First Act of Congressfollowing their agreement of the precise wording of the First Amendment (Congress shall make no law concerning the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...) was to ask President Washington to declare a national day of fasting and prayer!

Constitution of the State of Delaware: Art. XXII Every person who shall be chosen a member of either house, or appointed to any office or place of trust... shall...make and subscribe the following declaration, to wit: "I, do profess faith in God the Father and in Jesus Christ His only Son, and in the Holy Ghost, one God, blessed for evermore and I do acknowledge the holy scriptures of the Old and New Testament to be given by divine inspiration."

United States Supreme Court: Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States, 1892, 143 US 457, "These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation."(p.471) [This U. S. Supreme Court opinion includes a lengthy and detailed record of the historic evidences of America's Christian heritage.]


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The above should settle the question, on whether or not America was founded as a Christian nation.
1 posted on 08/29/2002 5:45:12 PM PDT by jstone78
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Why no Tom Paine quotes?
2 posted on 08/29/2002 5:51:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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I'm afraid that there are a whole lot of other quotes from a great number of the founding fathers that would make a very strong case for them being Deists, at best.

The fairest argument that can be made is that these men were, like all men, a product of their time. They lived in a very religious time, towards the tail end of the era when your religion was usually defined by who your king was.

There is really no question that these men were motivated by many different influences, some religious but also some not religious, such as the belief in "natural law" and the innate right of individuals to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". The Bible had been around for centuries, it took the vision of men like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Paine, and many other great men to forge this new creation called "The United States of America".

To argue that the founding fathers were devout believers is as dishonest as claiming that they were all athiests. The truth is that they were men of their era, a era deeply influenced by religion and religious practices. Their writings, thoughts and comments reflect that reality.

Their primary intent was not to create a nation that was Christian, their primary intent was to create a nation that was free, where men could choose to believe or not believe however they wished without being molested by the state.

4 posted on 08/29/2002 5:56:05 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Shermy
No quotes from John Locke either
5 posted on 08/29/2002 5:58:02 PM PDT by Coeur de Lion
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To: Billy_bob_bob
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
7 posted on 08/29/2002 6:00:40 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: jstone78
Early America was a mostly Christian society and all the ideals that come along with that. The Founders, a smatterting of many faiths, were intelligent enough to see the dangers in a purely religious governent (midevel europe and the middle east are such GREAT places, huh) that they set up a SECULAR government to protect the natural (God given) rights of man including freedom religion.

This is problem for people to understand?

8 posted on 08/29/2002 6:14:57 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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{....they set up a SECULAR government to protect the natural (God given) rights of man including freedom religion...}

It would be more accurate to say that they opposed the establishment of a national church, be it Anglican, Presbyterian or Catholic.

But they believed that the moral foundation of America was Christian. They had a non-denominational Christian vision of America, rather than a secular or atheistic one.
9 posted on 08/29/2002 6:31:09 PM PDT by jstone78
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The Founding Fathers had a great deal of input to the state's constitutions where they lived, as they were written. Often, in those constitutions and other documents, they stated that only Christians should hold offices. Please, I am not advocating that position only pointing out the degree to which the FF were men of faith, Christian faith.
10 posted on 08/29/2002 6:38:30 PM PDT by elephantlips
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To: jstone78
Let's add the fact , that many early colonies had official state churches, all of which were Christian.
11 posted on 08/29/2002 6:53:41 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Their primary intent was not to create a nation that was Christian, their primary intent was to create a nation that was free, where men could choose to believe or not believe however they wished without being molested by the state.

agreed

12 posted on 08/29/2002 7:32:13 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Shermy
I expect you asked "why no Tom Paine quotes" because you are aware of what he wrote in the Age of Reason. Odds are, the omission is logical, since Paine was never any kind of official in the government (of America) as the others all were.

Since you raise the question, I can answer it. I am just finishing my eight book, These Are the Times that Try Men's Souls which is about Paine and his times, with an important wrinkle that no scholars before have discovered. On your point, to make a long story short, Paine wrote with references similar to almost all the Framers, as a member of the Judeo-Christian tradition, in his all-important Common Sense.

Later in life, he reached a different conclusion, denounced Christianity (and all other organized religions) in the Age of Reason, and cost him almost all his former friends. He died poor, alone and nearly friendless as a result, and lies buried in three different graves.

I will, of course, have "deist" quotes from Paine in my book.

Congressman Billybob

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Post Script: There are rumors, and allegations from their political opponents, that Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were also deists. But their publiished works do not support this claim.

13 posted on 08/29/2002 7:33:48 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: dixie sass; usconservative; Bigun; Eagle9; freedox; jenx; Japedo
Ping and Japedo can you show this to MJ?
14 posted on 08/29/2002 7:46:00 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Congressman Billybob
and lies buried in three different graves

What???

Was he dismembered and his parts buried separately?

Or, are there three graves which claim to be the tomb of Thomas Paine and no one is really sure which, if any, is correct?

Or, is there another possibility which my two brain cells cannot fathom?

15 posted on 08/29/2002 8:08:16 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: Billy_bob_bob
The people that were in America 100 years before Washington were profoundly Christian. Church attendance was a requirement.One of my ancestors spent several nights in jail for missing church.I have been humbled and amazed at the faith that George Washington had. Schools were started for one reason, so that people could read the bible.
16 posted on 08/29/2002 8:16:55 PM PDT by moteineye
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To: jstone78
The above settles nothing. Many founders were Christian. They founded a secular state that happened to be inhabited by lots of Christians.
17 posted on 08/29/2002 8:31:55 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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Were our Founding Fathers Christian with a fervent love for the Gospel of Jesus Christ?

Yes, some of them were

Or were they primarily Deists, who only acknowledged the existence of a distant, impersonal god?

Yes, some of them were

Why is it so hard to accept both statements can be true.

Men change or modify their belief systems their entire lives as they learn and mature.

This is such a pointless agrument

18 posted on 08/29/2002 8:37:36 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: jstone78
Why does it matter? America may have been founded by Xtians but it was not founded exclusively for Xtians was it?
19 posted on 08/29/2002 8:42:40 PM PDT by Eternal_Bear
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To: Jemian
Paine's body was dug up and moved twice, by people who thought they could make an attraction from his grave site. The process being sloppy, no doubt parts of his body remained in each prior location. I've even read reports that some people made buttons from some of his bones.

A similar multiple burial and reburial occured with Christopher Columbus. He, too is buried in three different graves.

Billybob

20 posted on 08/29/2002 8:56:06 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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