Tour pros next in Augusta lobbying effort (Hootie Responds)

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[clintonh8r]

But what does the absence/presence of a certain set of gonads get you?

You tell me. It's women who seem so bent on getting both sets....

[doug from upland]

THE LOVELY MS. BURK

[TBall]

Because the women will get in the club and after a few years they will start to bit-- about everything. The male members will become fearful and will constantly alter their natural behavior to avoid offending the female members and getting a letter of reprimand.

[alisasny]

Just wondering..why would you want to play at this club when you are not welcome? I would love to play major league baseball too but..hey...I stink at baseball and I am female.

[Petronski]

But what does the absence/presence of a certain set of gonads get you?

Why does it concern you, or this womyn's group, how its members are, er, gonadally equipped?

[Oldeconomybuyer]

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[Lowcountry]

Your questions are good and I'm not sure if anyone has the right answer because there are probably no members of Augusta National on this board. To that end, let me just say that I think it is about accommodation.

When men form a private group it is because they want to enjoy a pastime without the eventual aggravation that women add to most any venture. For instance, if I want to pee standing up in the woods when I hunt, I'll just do it. If I take a woman with me, she'll probably make the hunt unbearable until I take her to a sit down potty. Now, heaven forbid we make a rule to put potties in the woods at my local hunt club, but let a few women in the club and there will be some changes.

Back at the lodge, we might want to sit around and scratch our "gonads", as you say, without trying hide it from the women. Now your response would be to have a room just for men so we could scratch, burp, cuss, talk about women and occasionally break wind. Next thing you know, the women want to come in that room too.

Sooner or later the women would create such a fuss that they would try to take over the club, change it into a garden club, and forbid peeing in the woods as that is a sexist method of relieving one's self. You could still cuss, but a strict limit of one four-letter word per week would be enforced. And you could loose your membership rights altogether for talking about women. No no no no.

I could go on with this and the final description of a men's club with women would be my house and that's why we join men's clubs in the first place - to get away from women for a while!!!

[clintonh8r]

Yeah, and Jesse Jackson's methods are OK, too. (I've noticed....even he hasn't touched this one).

[colorado tanker]

"Think about the name: The Masters." LOL! That must drive She Who Must Be Obeyed nuts!

So what would Burk change the name to? The Mistresses? The Dominatrix's?

[Rebel-without-a-pause]

Back at the lodge, we might want to sit around and scratch our "gonads", as you say, without trying hide it from the women. Now your response would be to have a room just for men so we could scratch, burp, cuss, talk about women and occasionally break wind. Next thing you know, the women want to come in that room too. Back when I was in the "Real Navy" we had "stag bars" so we could do just that, then the "Waves" wanted in. The stag bars were done away with and we had to go to sea to scratch, cuss, break wind, etc. Next thing you know they started letting "Waves" onboard ships. Hell! I retired!!!

[Texaggie79]

It's a country club thing, not a golf thing. Throughout history, men, just as women, have wanted someplace to go that is men only. Now there are only a VERY few amount of places that do that.

Do you deny that men and women act differently when not in the presence of a member of the opposite sex? It's in our biology.

[irish guard]

You are perfectly correct in your assumptions. It is Mewzilla that doesn't get it...oldeconomybuyer had it right when he said

>>>>>>This isn't about golf or the PGA tour, it's about radical feminists exploiting Augusta National to get media attention. It's the same as PETA putting up billboards with anti-religion hate messages<<<<<<<

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

What would anyone from the NCWO know about morals?Men have a RIGHT to freedom of association just as much as anyone else.This is NOT about rights but CONTROL.Women like this don't need any more rights,they need counselling.

[Frohickey]

But no-one has answered my question: how and/or why does a woman golfing as a member and not a guest ruin a guy's enjoyment of his game?

It doesn't. But when an outsider tells you what you should do, you resent it. Only members of the club can tell what the club should and should not do. If you are not a member, you do not have a say or stake in any matter involving it. Unless you are a potential member that is willing to say, drop a billion dollars.

[thinden]

4. The winner in this sponsorship issue is the viewer. There will now be 12 ½ hours of commercial free golf coverage.

hootie could have just as easily gone "pay for view" with the masters.

what would it pull? if hootie only came up with a couple million Masters crazed subscribers @ $19.95 (a cool $39,900,000.00), it would make the $7.5 million in corporate sponsorships look like chump change.

[B Knotts]

Is Burk a buck or a doe?

Or a wether, perhaps... :-P

[Helms]

Boy, if there ever was a case of Slippery Slope Thinking...

[Frohickey]

The hell they don't. What you fellas are missing here is that this all-encompassing women's organization has but one purspose -- to kick men in the balls. This isn't about membership at Augusta. It's about showing hubby who is boss come Saturday morning.

Well, if Mrs. BattleAxe wants to show who's the boss come Saturday morning, she can try and do so. But Mr. StickInTheMud can also decide to give Mrs. BattleAxe a divorce. There are younger fish in the sea, and marriage is a partnership. I bet Mrs. BattleAxe would relish the idea of going back to the dating market and find another young stud. Of course, she would have to compete with other younger, more nubile women for the young stud's attention.

(I just started reading Danielle Crittenden's book What Our Mothers Didn't Tell Us: Why Happiness Eludes the Modern Woman. A lot of it makes sense. It pokes many holes in feminist's illogic.)

[Trust but Verify]

I think the point is, this is a private club. it is their prerogative as to whether or not to have women as members. They have decided against it and are not going to have some sexually frustrated old BAG tell them otherwise.

Ms. Burk should get herself a vibrator and a life and leave the Masters and Augusta National alone.

[Stone Mountain]

But come on, just out of curiosity, how does a woman being a member instead of a guest affect your enjoyment of your golf outing?

Nobody here seems to be able to post a reasonable, non-condescending answer to this question. Why is that? Certainly a private club can discriminate against women if they wanted to, but I would also be interested in understanding why this is desireable.