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To: pythagorean; vooch; All
#4

You ask a good questions!

In my oppinion,Srebrenica will have a simmilar faith like a Katyin Forest Masssacre in Poland!Official(NATO) history will tell as ad nauseam that 8000 Muslim men were killed!The real truth will be revealed in fifty odd years.

As far as Serbs go,Orich was a specialist in avoiding a fight with Serebian army.But,old men and women were his favourite prey!Their bodies were butchered and deliberately left in order to speread fear among the population.If we have in mind the fact that Srebrenicsa was surrounded,missing Serbian bodies were.probbably exhumed from some of the mass graves and are stored in Tuzla.Identification is a big problem.So,all the bodies in the morgue are presumeably Muslims!

Interesting thing is that BBC report a few days ago claims that there are 6000 bodies in the morgue;another report claims 5000.At the same time latest report from RS claims that about 2500 muslims were killed in the combat and that majority of the casualities were inflicted outside Srebrenica while BSA was persuing Muslim forces trying to flee to Tuzla!Even the Muslims had to addmit that Muslim units were sent from Tuzla to attack the BSA and save the Srebrenica Corps who was facing anihilation in the mountins and valleys trying to escape!There is no doubt that Muslims were mauled and suffered a hevy casualities.Never mind,they were all massacred!

Srebrenica is a a tragedy with a capital T!It is a story of trachery and hypocrisy;betrayal and an outmost cinycisam;a PR excercize in dishonesty,par excelance!And,nobody is innocent!

In spring `92 Muslims attacked and expeled the Serbs from Srebrenica(not reported in Western Press);Serbs said "We will be back" and they came back,next spring.The only one who publicly explined that fact at least here in UK,was Misha Gleny,prominent historian and expert on Balkan affairs.Once battle was lost Muslims started ising ,already perfected Croatian trick of playing victims and calling UN to save them!It worked!Then,they started playing a numbers game:suddenly a small town which had app 25 000 people became a safe haven for 100000!!!But,a real number was never more than double of the pre war population!Media went allong with it!Then came a "Hero" a French General Morillon!A veteran of Foreign Legion,a soldier trough and trough had volontiered to be a Muslim fool and grin stupidly for the cameras,together with other Blue Helmets during an alleged "disarmamnet" of Muslims!Everybody knew that Srebrebica Corps was established(3000 fighters) at the beggining but these clowns were happy that Muslims had "given up their weapons"!Pictures of the arr 100+ pieces of WWII vintage Russian PPshA-41 a couple of obsolete recoiless Rifles, a damaged Zis-3 76mm gun and a few of RPG-7 launchers,a few boxess of ammo and some mortars and hand granades...will never leave my mind!And,grining faces of the participans:Muslims"Ha,ha,we are taking a piss!!!" Dutch soldiers "You `re having a laugh,right?Who cares,its funny!Hello mum,how do I look on TV?"Morillon:"I`ve seen more modern weapons in Algeria in 1957!Cest la vie!I am dieing for a cognac!I hope that my beret looks nice!"What a bleeding joke!If they didn`t participate in a disarmament charade,Orich wouldn`t be able to slaughter so many innocent people!And,in the case of the unprovocked Serbian attack NATO should have a full moral authority to bomb them,and they would have my full support!And,I am a Serb!NATO and UN knew exactly what was happening.Number of casualities,their nationality,and perpetrators!

The only honorable people in the whole affair was a Dutch Government which resigned a few months ago after publishing a detailed report,which ,BTW,has exhonerated both Miloshevich and Karadzich from responsibility regarding a alleged massacre!

Naser Orich will not be arrested!He will eather vanish or he will be killed!Gang related murder ,I suppose!He knows to much,his confesssion will seriously undermine Srebrenica case,and we can`t have that,can we!

11 posted on 09/05/2002 1:28:37 AM PDT by branicap
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To: branicap
Bravo brincap! You should have dropped that little coward when you had the chance, but in no way could you have known what he was going to do. Peace be with you brate...
13 posted on 09/05/2002 7:57:59 AM PDT by FireWall
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To: branicap; vooch; getoffmylawn; DTA; joan; FireWall; kosta50; SANDNES
branicap, the experiences you describe are fascinating, tragic and chilling. I have no personal connection to the former Yugoslavia, but I hope that you and other honest people from the former Yugoslavia with first hand experience on Oric, Srebrenica and the Bosnian war have gone beyond a "justice will not be done" fatalistic attitude and have proceeded to the step of getting organized and promoting important truths to the policy makers and opinion shapers in the "west". Izetbegovic and his fellow criminals can and must be stopped from winning the PR war.

I believe that an organized campaign for truth and justice on Srebrenica should be spearheaded by advancing certain facts that are common knowledge in this forum and have a great potential for reversing the anti-Serbian hysteria if they are promoted to a degree that the western press cannot ignore. The points that I see as having not only factual validity but also the power to change western public opinion are the following:

(1) Oric and others in the Izetbegovic regime are guilty of crimes in the Srebrenica area equal or worse than those attributed to the Bosnian Serb leadership. They committed many of these crimes while operating from the supposedly demilitarized safe haven of Srebrenica.

(2) The failure of ICTY to indict Oric and others in the Izetbegovic regime despite overwhelming damning evidence constitutes irrefutable proof of its anti-Serb bias.

(3) The evacuation of Srebrenica was not a result of any major Serb attack but of orders by the Izetbegovic regime with the explicit goal to fraudulently present all military and civilian deaths as results of a "genocide".

(4) Major battles took place after the evacuation with at least hundreds (and most likely more than one thousand) of Muslim battle casualties.

(5) The bodies found are only around 2000, not 5000 or 6000 as fraudulently rumored and written in many reports.

(6) The recent Bosnian Serb report is consistent with the number of bodies found and with the irrefutable fact that a large number belongs to combat casualties. This report is more reliable than poorly corroborated reports from Muslim sources.

(7) The Dutch report, while understandably putting most blame on Mladic for civilian deaths after the Muslim exodus, finds very little evidence against Karadzic and none against Milosevic. On the contrary, it ascribes significant blame on the Izetbegovic regime for war crimes in the Srebrenica area as well as for sending the Muslim combatants of Srebrenica, along with hapless civilians, to a series of hopeless battles in order to gain a PR victory.

14 posted on 09/05/2002 10:55:58 AM PDT by pythagorean
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