Shallenburger at the State Fair!

[jonefab]

We need our loudest most enthusiastic Shallenburger Supporters! Come out for the 1st debate between Tim and his opponent this Saturday! Join us at the State Fair Grounds in Hutchinson, on the Farm Bureau Stage

This Saturday September 7th 11:00 am

We're looking for a packed house so bring your family and friends (and their friends and family!) Thanks, we'll see you there!!! Rachelle

[jonefab]

Get the word out. This needs to be freeped by some strong supporters.

[jonefab]

Ping

[AdA$tra]

You know. After two days of arguing with idiots that think it is ok to leave their kids in the car while they run in and do errands, it is nice to come home to a thread full of Kansas folks. I know I cannot make it to the fair. Does anyone know the full schedule of debates? When will they be in Topeka?

[jonefab]

Link to Kansas State Fair events

[jonefab]

The debates are:

• Saturday in Hutchinson, 11 a.m. at the Farm Bureau Arena at the Kansas State Fair.


• Sept. 16 in Wichita, noon at the Hyatt Hotel, 400 W. Waterman, sponsored by the Wichita Rotary Club.

• Oct. 6 in Colby, 7 p.m. at the Northwest Cultural Arts Center at Colby Community College.

• Oct. 8, in Johnson County, 12:30 p.m. at the Quivira Lake and Country Club, sponsored by several area chambers of commerce.

• Oct. 22, in Topeka, 7 p.m. at the studios of WIBW-TV, 631 S.W. Commerce Place.

[TroutStalker]

Thanks for the listing.

I would like to attend the Johnson County debate in October if possible, but I wonder if it will be open to the public, since Lake Quivira is a gated community.

[RAT Patrol]

After two days of arguing with idiots that think it is ok to leave their kids in the car while they run in and do errands Freepers? Good grief!

[RAT Patrol]

Sorry I can't make it to Hutch, but maybe rwfromkansas can. Oh, I think Steel Eye is from that area too. (Ping for you, Steel Eye.)

I'll say a few prayers for Shallenburger on Saturday anyway.

[AdA$tra]

Two threads: here^ and here^. Numerous personal attacks by some guy called E. Pluribus Unum until the moderator shut him down.

[RAT Patrol]

Don't let the bad apples get you down or run you off. We need more of your type in Freepland. Heck, I should talk..I've had a few of those days myself, but there are always plenty of great people who keep me here. (I'm still upset about Registered leaving. Maybe he'll be back.)

[rwfromkansas]

shoot......I will only be 20 miles away, but I won't be able to go since I will be in Sterling College getting orientated for a campus job.

[rwfromkansas]

Boy do I wish I could, but I will be at job orientation at the library of Sterling College.

[ALS]

Damn, I'm on call this weekend at work! ugh

I did, however have the chance to meet and talk with Tim about a month ago. I liked what he had to say. Rare for a politician. Good man. If he wins, and he should, he'll put a knuckletwister on the NEA that is badly needed in this state.

[rwfromkansas]

I am not very confident of his chances......unless ads start getting aired soon.

[ALS]

He told me that his money was not going much for ads, but instead he was focusing on showing up around the state, face to face. He may wish to rethink that strategy in the Topeka/KC area.

[RAT Patrol]

Too bad. I hope school is going well for you, btw.

[jonefab]

Posted on Fri, Sep. 06, 2002


MARTIN HAWVER: ONE CANDIDATE IN TWO RACES THIS YEAR

A key figure in the race for Kansas governor could well be a candidate who is running for a different office.
It's Republican Phill Kline of Shawnee, of course, who soundly defeated state Sen. David Adkins of Leawood for the party's nomination for attorney general.

Kline emerged from the nastiest of TV advertisement wars and won the small-turnout primary election. Very conservative Republicans often emerge victorious from such battles, and Kline did. Nothing wrong with that, except that in a general election, when everyone gets to vote, he brings ultraconservative baggage with him that makes him and his friends suspect to less-conservative Kansans -- including Democrats, unaffiliated voters and Republicans trying to assemble behind their party's general-election slate.

And that brings us to the gubernatorial race between Democratic Insurance Commissioner Kathleen Sebelius and Republican State Treasurer Tim Shallenburger. Sebelius is a pretty conservative Democrat, which is one reason she's in public office.

Sebelius is linking Shallenburger and Kline together with her television ads, and the blur between her race against Shallenburger and her race against Shallenburger and Kline will work to her advantage. Has anyone seen a Shallenburger yard sign in any corner of the state without a Kline sign nearby?

Shallenburger is a pretty conservative guy, of course. And in November, if the economy is still struggling, midyear budget cuts have been made, and people are feeling a cash crunch, they'll be ready to vote for a guy who says he won't raise taxes. That could happen.

But Shallenburger isn't as conservative as Kline on social issues, and if the economy gets even a little breather, attention will turn to those social issues -- such as abortion, of course, which Kline vows to make harder to get in Kansas.

Shallenburger already is conservative enough on abortion for many Kansans, seeing a loophole or two that he says might be fixed. But he realizes that the U.S. Supreme Court is in charge of that issue, and he isn't going to spend a lot of time on it.

But the tie-in between the guys whose yard signs are just inches apart paints them both with Kline's more conservative view.

Campaign against one, campaign against both, campaign against the top of the GOP ticket, and hope that fear of Kline rubs off on Shallenburger -- that's a practical way for Sebelius to go.

Watch to see whether Shallenburger opens some distance between his race and Kline's race.

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Martin Hawver is publisher of Topeka-based Hawver's Capitol Report. Reach him at (785) 267-5500 or through the Web site www.hawvernews.com.

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© 2001 eagle and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved.
http://www.kansas.com

[jonefab]

Ping again. Look at the previous post.

[RAT Patrol]

FYI, my husband works for a production studio in Lenexa. I don't know where Shallenburger has had his commercials made but you can't get better production outside of L.A. than at this place. They put big bucks into their equipment and up-date it constantly. Plus, everyone who works there is a conservative Christian. If there is an exception I am unaware of it. Okay, they had to be pushed out the door to vote in the primary (by my husband) but they probably all voted for Shallenburger.

[RAT Patrol]

That's insanely biased. Plus, I love these people who marginalize someone based solely on their being pro-life. Give me a break. The man is a Republican. The national party is pro-life yet he's somehow the misfit? Besides, give me a big fat freakin' break....there isn't much a state can do unless the SCOTUS overturns Roe v. Wade. Anything a state might do would be with the blessings of a majority of its citizens because most people don't care how much money the abortion industry donates to a political campaign and so they can see that babies in the neonatal ICU section of the hospital should have the right to life even if they are lucky enough to make it to term in mommy's tummy. All the drama in the world won't change the fact that Sebelius is hard edge, abortion 'till birth, outside the will of the majority on the issue of abortion.

Check out the term babies in the hospital for that matter. They are only hours away from being legally worthless. How does that kind of extremism make sense?