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Homosexual White Supremacists, Sneered at by Their Fellow Racists, Come Out on the Net
Southern Poverty Law Center ^ | Fall 2000 | SPLC Intelligence Report

Posted on 09/08/2002 7:33:13 AM PDT by jstone78

The Fringe of the Fringe - Homosexual white supremacists, sneered at by their fellow racists, come out on the Net

Ku Klux Klansmen, neo-Nazis, Christian Identity adherents, racist Skinheads and Odinists, along with your garden variety white supremacists – these are the people that populate America’s radical right. They inhabit, by definition, the outermost fringes of our society.

And then there are the gay neo-Nazis.

Talk about a sect within a sect. The members of this tiny subculture on the radical right — mainly men who inhabit Web chat rooms like "Gay Aryan Resistance" — just can’t seem to get any respect. After all, the real Nazis murdered thousands of homosexuals, and most people on the modern white supremacist right act pretty much as if they’d like to follow suit.

Take Pete Peters, a leading ideologue of the racist Christian Identity religion. The title of his 1993 book, Death to all Homosexuals, leaves little to the imagination. Or consider Fred Phelps, the radical Topeka Baptist. He runs the godhatesfags.com web site. Tom Metzger, who leads the White Aryan Resistance, offers up for his part cartoons that depict gay men being beaten to death.

No matter. Homosexual white men, declares a web page called the Gay Racialist Network (www.geocities.com/ARCOrg/), are "nature’s elite." While straight men are good for breeding, gay white men are "charismatic leaders that possess … genius." Similar messages appear on sites like Gays Against Semitism (www.geocities.com/gasunited/), and especially in chat rooms with names such as "Gay Nazi Sex," "Gay Nazi WP [White Power] Fetishists," "Gay Aryan Neo-Nazi Skinheads," "Nazi Muscle" and, most curious of all, "Diapered Skinheads."

"The Gay Aryan Mann [sic] must rise up," writes one impassioned man in the "Gay Aryan Resistance" chat room, "and destroy ZOG [the "Zionist Occupation Government"] and end the Semitic homophobia imposed on our Kultur!"

Or, in the posted message of a rare lesbian: "Even if you are gay and white, or retarded and white, YOU ARE WHITE. BOTTOM LINE! Instead of letting the white race go extinct because of worthless races such as the african [sic] race or the mexican [sic] race popping out literally millions of babies a day, we have to fight this fucked up shit they are doing. They are raping our country."

Although it will come as a surprise to many, there has long been a fascist homosexual subculture. Hitler’s paramilitary SA storm troopers had a significant gay element — until SS head Heinrich Himmler announced that all gays would be sent to concentration camps "and shot while trying to escape." Small groups of gay neo-Nazis dotted the European landscape after the war, while in America homosexuality continues to be a "secret of postwar American National Socialism," according to Jeffrey Kaplan, a well-known scholar of extremism.

In fact, Kaplan writes, gays made up a "significant" — if carefully hidden — part of George Lincoln Rockwell’s American Nazi Party in the 1960s. In 1974, the first openly gay American neo-Nazi group, the National Socialist League, was formed in Los Angeles by Russell Veh. Before disappearing in the 1980s, the group put out a journal — NS Kampfruf – complete with explicit photographs and racy advertisements.

This reality has been acknowledged by some white supremacists. Long-time neo-Nazi Harold Covington, revealing his own homophobia, put it this way: "[T]his movement has a distinct tendency to attract faggots because of the leather-macho image that the System Jew media imparts to the SS uniform."

Today, life remains tough for the committed gay neo-Nazi. After a heterosexual neo-Nazi chat room called the "Racialist Club of America" expelled "practicing homosexuals" recently, one gay man wrote, "[W]e will never win this war as long as they [straight neo-Nazis] are considered the NORM of white pride groups." Another man, in considerably more despair, asked this question: "What does belonging to a group, who would kill you along with everyone else the second they found out what you were really, make you feel like?"


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A few years ago, a pro-family organization prepared a report which revealed that gays were well represented in the Third Reich in Germany. As a result, the pro-family organization was denounced by liberals, for spreading biased propaganda against gays.

Now you can hear it, straight from the horse's mouth. The bastion of far left-wing liberalism, the Southern Poverty Law Center, confirms the report from the pro-family organization, that gays were major players in Nazi Germany.

The above story also reveals that gay racism did not end in the 1940s, but lives on to this day. Among all groups of white people, the one group that never gets its racial biases examined, is the gay community.

We have all heard of the racism of the "Christian right", "straight white males", the GOP, and other parts of "traditional" America, from the mainstream media. Do you ever ask yourself why we never hear of "gay racists"?

Consider the following. A typical Billy Graham evangelical crusade is often more racially diverse than a typical gay pride march. Some private white gay clubs do not admit blacks. The leadership of most gay rights organizations in the United States is lilly white, with hardly any black officials. There are some neighborhoods in San Francisco that are very racist. When football legend, Reggie White, disapproved of homosexual behavior based on his deep Christian beliefs, he was subjected an avalanche of hateful racial slurs.

Not all gays are racists. But many are. And it is time we brought the problem of gay racists out of the closet.

1 posted on 09/08/2002 7:33:13 AM PDT by jstone78
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To: jstone78
How can they perpetuate the master race if they don't like girls?
2 posted on 09/08/2002 7:34:48 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: jstone78
Can Gay Neo Nazis commit "Hate Crimes"? The mind reels at the possibilities here....
3 posted on 09/08/2002 7:39:25 AM PDT by pgobrien
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To: Senator Goldwater
How can they perpetuate the master race if they don't like girls?

Apparently they want to kill off all blacks, jews and women :P

4 posted on 09/08/2002 7:45:37 AM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: jstone78
I guess the neo-nazis now have something to do with their nazi flags when the red fades to pink.

Why is it that white-supremacists are the whites who have the lest to feel supreme about?

5 posted on 09/08/2002 7:53:49 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: jstone78
"What does belonging to a group, who would kill you...make you feel like?"

Uh... Like you're mixed up with the wrong kind of people?

6 posted on 09/08/2002 7:55:05 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: KarlInOhio
lest = least
7 posted on 09/08/2002 7:57:15 AM PDT by KarlInOhio
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To: jstone78
I once knew a guy who hated Jews AND hated asparagus. Can you believe that?

If the Southern Poverty Law Center ever found out, they would send out an urgent bulletin about another Hate Group----the Racist-Vegist Brigade.

After all, if you are the Southern Poverty Law Center, there can just never be too many Hate Groups (as long as they are right wing, of course.)

There has to be some reason to justify the existence of a looney tune outfit like SPLC. Church burnings from 1963 are getting a little stale by now.

8 posted on 09/08/2002 8:01:37 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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The bastion of far left-wing liberalism, the Southern Poverty Law Center

Perhaps it's time that these nitwits examine their own major failings, like the racial demagogery of their own adherents (i.e. Je$$e Jacka$$ and Al "Slim Shady" Sharpton), and their knee-jerk support of communist dictators like Castro. Maybe then, when they come clean, will their criticism of a vanishingly small number of wackos on the far right be credible.

9 posted on 09/08/2002 8:07:45 AM PDT by bassmaner
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To: Senator Goldwater
Test tubes and turkey basters!!
In the future, look for sex changes in petri dishes. They will insert the gay gene and tweek the "hair gene" so all the "girls" have those cute little Hillary, I mean Hitler mustaches.
10 posted on 09/08/2002 8:09:27 AM PDT by Conservateacher
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The problem is that "Liberals"--and there are far too many of them--are arbitrary about awarding victim status, and the basic problem is that victimhood is a ridiculous concept in the first place, but it is the foundation of "Liberalism", and "Liberals" therefore cannot abandon it no matter how absurd it makes their arguments.

Absurdity has never bothered "Liberals". If it did, they wouldn't be "Liberals" in the first place.

The more you think about it, the more similarities you find between "Liberalism" and Islam. If they could just get their dogma and rhetoric in sinc, they could combine. Maybe they'll do that yet.

11 posted on 09/08/2002 8:23:44 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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Old news; they had some of them all dressed up like Nazi's and dancing together in this bar in the first "Police Acadamy" movie. That movie has got to be around 20 years old.
12 posted on 09/08/2002 8:35:27 AM PDT by putupon
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To: putupon
And don't forget the Illinois Nazis from the Blues Brothers, who were also gay, plus the "Springtime for Hitler" Nazis from The Producers.

Gay racists need their own special category of Darwin award.

14 posted on 09/08/2002 9:10:21 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: San Jacinto
Hey S.J.... When did Queers magically turn into Gaze ??? Eeeyuck . . . even the thought of spelling it correctly gives me the creeps !!!
15 posted on 09/08/2002 9:11:48 AM PDT by GeekDejure
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To: GeekDejure
Homsexual Nazis? What's their battle cry--"Death to all
puddy?"

16 posted on 09/08/2002 9:18:31 AM PDT by Trickyguy
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To: jstone78
If Morris Dees works on this problem long enough, He'll eventually get it figured out. I just wish people like Dees, and the SPLC, would be more forthcoming about how the KKK sprang from the breast of the Democrat Party of the South . . .

Must be slow times in the 'Militia' business, if Dees is back to the 'Klan'.

17 posted on 09/08/2002 9:21:01 AM PDT by Crowcreek
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To: jstone78
Mary Cheney, Vice President Cheney's daughter, Joins Republican Homosexual Activist Group
18 posted on 09/16/2002 5:28:18 PM PDT by Young Americans for Freedom
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To: Senator Goldwater
They could perpetuate the master race by falling off the planet. Hence, there will be more space for sane people. There ain't many of us left, honeybuns.
19 posted on 09/16/2002 5:57:33 PM PDT by Little Bush
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To: jstone78
And it is time we brought the problem of gay racists out of the closet.

Well, I guess they have "pride" covered in spades.

20 posted on 09/16/2002 6:08:55 PM PDT by paulklenk
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