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Al Qaeda website: OSAMA IS DEAD!
CBS News | 09/11/2002

Posted on 09/11/2002 8:02:21 AM PDT by Pokey78

CBS just announced that on an Al-Qaeda website in the Sudan, Bin Laden died at TOra Bora!


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To: demlosers

Osama Bites the Dust, but it's Osama of Aden, not bin Laden!

-- by Jeremy Reynalds Sept. 11, 2002 (pre-pubilcation)

An Arabic web site initially known as alneda.com and believed by U.S. officials to have been used by al-Qaeda to deliver messages possibly connected with further attacks, has resurfaced under the numerical internet address 66.197.181.234

However, a story on the site's front page illustrates the difficulty of obtaining accurate information from the internet about terrorism, especially when much of the needed information is in Arabic. Let me explain. A story I was referred to on this site initially appeared to be an eyewitness account of the death of Osama bin Laden.

Using a poor but nonetheless still relatively helpful automated Arabic-English translation tool available on line at http://tarjim.ajeeb.com/ajeeb/default.asp?, one headline appeared to be: "Osama's murder blessings but the jihad past to the day of resurrection."

Signed "An Abogafralkoiti," (an eyewitness) the account seemed to read in part, "Ossama Bin Ladin (sic) is murdered."

While the story appeared to talk about an apparent initial protection of bin Laden, things got bad in the opinion of the eye witness. (I have paraphrased).

The aerial bombardment on us started on the 10th day of Ramadan ... and that was at the beginning of the American air bombardment on Afghanistan the start of the Northern alliance's land manoeuvers ... On the 24th night of Ramadan very late in the evening we heard awful explosions near to us. They were right where Osama bin Laden was entrenched. That was a very long and difficult night and we were very worried as to what had happened to him as a result of that savage raid.

"In the morning and after the dawn prayer the information came to us about the disaster !! Osama's body was removed from the trench ... It was a guided missile from the giant aeroplane (a b52) and nothing remained except an old hole and (Osama's) remains."

However, a source close to this story and familiar with internet terrorism told me that while the story is indeed about AN Osama, it's not the one who everyone's after. He wrote that it concerns " the death of ‘Osama of Aden,' who alneda.com says is ‘a warrior for the sheik.' Our (Arabic) translator says the ‘communique' appears to have been written by a 12-year-old. It contains misspelled words, lots of exclamation marks and even begins with the phrase, ‘it was a dark and stormy night.' We think the site was hacked by a kid who decided to have some fun!"

Cyberterrorism expert Ben Venzke told USA Today in June that alneda.com, "is one of the only sites, if not the only site, for statements by al-qaeda and the Taliban."

The original alneda.com site was pulled after the United States government requested its removal. It has resurfaced under other names and addresses since the site was originally pulled.

The alneda.com domain name is now owned by a Maryland based internet pornographer whose business according to some accounts grossed over $3 million in 1999.

66.197. 181.234 is located on servers owned by burst.net out of Scranton, Pa. Burst.net has become increasingly hostile to inquiries concerning its hosting of terrorist web sites and continues to insist that "the government" is requiring them to host the sites.

An e- mail to shawn@host.noc (an apparent subsidiary of burst.net) who is listed as a contact for the site, was not answered by press time.


Burst.Net == The ISP of Terrorists

The terrorists have found a friend in Pennsylvania.

http://66.197.181.234/ traces to Burst.Net in Scranton PA.  Burst.Net is also the home to several other terrorist groups. For example: the official website of Hamas is located at IP address of 64.191.17.22 . The terrorist group Laskar Jehad is at IP address 64.191.23.199 all within Burst.net's netblock .  

Burst.net was also the home of Al-Qaeda's Azzam.com and the Taliban-online.com. Both have been removed because of pressure by concerned citizens after they had read stories in the news media  -- but Burst.net has strongly resisted taking even these terror sites down even though they violated Burst.Net's own terms of service agreement.

For more information on Burst.net's business practices go to the Google Groups as do a search for "Hostnoc" or "Burst.net"

The old saw "Burst.net must keep all the terror sites up for the Govt. to monitor" just doesn't cut it anymore. Recent legal rulings have underscored the fact that an ISP is responsable for what it hosts. After an ISP is informed of a websites content and it's violation of the legally binding Terms of Service agreement it must take the site down -- or the ISP becomes responsable for what is posted.

Azzam.com published the orders from bin Laden to  "to kill the Americans and their allies-civilians and military is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it," and the terrorists carried it out. That's incitement to murder and I hope the 9-11 victims lawyers include Burst.net in the current lawsuit.  For that matter, how about the victims of Hamas in pizza parlors and buses in Israel or the thousands of murdered Christians murdered by Laskar Jehad in Indonesia?

Burst.net is a privately held company so the information about who owns funds this company is not publically available. It's time a bright spotlight was shined on this company. Who controls this company and why do they want to destory America?
341 posted on 09/11/2002 3:04:45 PM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
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To: Numbers Guy; RummyChick
I saw that after I had posted my findings.... thanks!
342 posted on 09/11/2002 3:13:02 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: Drknows
Atta hated skyscrapers...

Liberals hate skyscrapers too. They have a lot in common.

343 posted on 09/11/2002 3:19:47 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Landru
So Lan, what do you think of the news department at CBS?
344 posted on 09/11/2002 3:38:36 PM PDT by sultan88
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To: Pokey78
Until we hear it from Geraldo, we can't be sure.
345 posted on 09/11/2002 3:50:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: JohnathanRGalt
"America confirms that she fights the islam and is not the terrorism"

Can't get anything up yet on this but is probably interesting.
Another site that mimicks www.draset.com is www.draset.net. At one time, there was a graphic on Draset.net that was the same as on the new Alneda..that being the blue graphic on the upper left corner of the horse and rider. It is a site that should be watched.
346 posted on 09/11/2002 4:13:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: craig_eddy
Ill have a beer to celebrate! If it turns out to be false, I was going to have a beer anyway.
347 posted on 09/11/2002 4:20:09 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Howlin
Holy cow! I hadn't seen this before and haven't been online all day.

Thanks for the ping!
348 posted on 09/11/2002 4:49:02 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: MeeknMing
As the president said yesterday, Osama ain't leading parades anywhere. If he's alive, he's in hiding. Big tough guy!
349 posted on 09/12/2002 12:25:42 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: areafiftyone
RE: #48

LOL
Great cartoon.
Thanks!

350 posted on 09/12/2002 2:14:19 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: sultan88
"So Lan, what do you think of the news department at CBS?"

Why?
Show me a body and DNA.

...then --& only then -- will we talk of Bin Ladden's, "death."

351 posted on 09/12/2002 7:34:27 AM PDT by Landru
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