[Greybird]

Or running for office, or fronting for various bogus institutions.

Such as Frank Borman being the president of Boeing? Yeah, right.

O'course, Senator John Glenn was a member of an institution that churns out bogosity by the ton, but it's hardly fair to call the Senate a "bogus institution."

These men, including Glenn, are heroes. I had to watch "The Right Stuff" last night on HBO3 to get some respite from the endless wailing -- very little being genuinely respectful to the dead -- that began this past weekend. And to remember when we conquered frontiers.

[Prodigal Son]

I had to watch "The Right Stuff" last night on HBO3 to get some respite from the endless wailing -- very little being genuinely respectful to the dead -- that began this past weekend. And to remember when we conquered frontiers.

That's a great movie.

[weegee]

Perhaps at one point in his career, John Glenn was a hero but I cannot see him that way today.

[longshadow]

Such as Frank Borman being the president of Boeing?

Just to set the record straight, Borman was head of United Airlines, not Boeing.

But that does not affect the point you were making.....