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To: DrLiberty
Now we also know that the powers that be wanted to invade Afghanistan as far back as 1997 (Per Zbignew Brzenski's book The Grand Chessboard), but needed a provocation to get the American public to go along. About that time, Osama Bin-Laden relocated to Afghanistan.

Your theories are well thought out and have some logical support. There is however one problem I see. Why not blame the OKC bombing on the foreign terrorist back then ? Why shift the blame to 'domestic terrorism' ? Think of how the country would have rallied behind Clintoon because of the terrible act of middle eastern terrorism committed in the 'heartland' of America. The only possible explanation I can see is that Clintoon hijacked their plans and used them to go after those 'right wingers' who were causing him political problems.

Here are some other interesting things I remember from those of us who were frequently posting on the newsgroups back then. Right after that bombing a couple of new posters appeared who were obviously trying to persuade right wingers to support McViegh. They were unsuccessful. I also remember getting a private email from Rivero back then. After I called McViegh a mass murderer who was obviously timing the actual bombing to kill as many of the workers within the building as possible, Rivero told me in private email that McViegh got hung up in traffic and may have been trying to get the truck to explode earlier.

Just some more tidbits for you to ponder.

20 posted on 09/11/2002 1:51:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape
Why not link to Iraq back then?

I think Clinton was going for maximum political effect (as Dick Morris pointed out) and also I'm not sure that it was for him to go after Iraq at that time.(ie maybe it was being saved til 2002 and for Bush to do?)

Certainly Clinton had no stomach for that kind of undertaking or dealing with people like Osama either. He seemed to be in charge to let this stuff get to the boiling point instead of dealing with it effectively. So now Clinton is a convenient scapegoat (deservedly of course) that Bush wont investigate for anything.

So the Dems and Repubs seem to work together well in this regard, eh?
25 posted on 09/11/2002 2:21:42 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: justa-hairyape
Why not blame the OKC bombing on the foreign terrorist back then ?

Possibility. Maybe they figured if they blamed the ME, then later when the book was published, they thought the ME was claim they were set up?

I have no idea, but I wonder why wasn't book published ealier if it was finished in 1991? Why the long delay?

31 posted on 09/11/2002 2:37:21 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: justa-hairyape
The reason the "govt" (collectively) deliberately did not want to implicate Middle-eastern terrorists is because it suited a multiplicity of purposes:

1) The radical rightwing ideology of McVeigh played into the hands of the blame-oriented partisan politics of the Clinton thugs.

2) It is a simpler explanation than an international terrorist thread, which, when pulled, unravels a story that may not end cleanly for the admin or the intelligence community or the big military dealers who lobby Congress.

3) It's possible that some of the unnamed terrorists may have been Saudi and that some big military sales could have been jeapordized.

4) PLUS: there has been more than speculation that Terry Nichols had a tie to the Phillipines terrorist organization that has ties to Al Queda.

38 posted on 09/11/2002 8:07:23 PM PDT by The Doctor
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