Live Thread: Bush Speech to U.N.

I know -- think that is why I am savoring today! It happens so seldom that the press actually supports what President Bush has to say!

1,641 posted on 09/12/2002 5:24:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom

I apologize. I mean to add a :) to that post....

1,642 posted on 09/12/2002 5:26:14 PM PDT by isthisnickcool

On my way to watching the re-run of President Bush's speech on C-SPAN I surfed the channels and saw that Donahue has Ramsey Clark on tonight.....2 losers. Also there was a UK Labor guy who characterized Bush's speech as "arrogant and brazen" and said that Israel had broken more UN resolutions than Iraq. (Disclaimer: I have NEVER watched Donahue before, nor Connie Chung.)

1,643 posted on 09/12/2002 5:28:57 PM PDT by Carolinamom

I have taken to calling myself a Bush Republican! To me that summarizes my support of him and his policies!

1,644 posted on 09/12/2002 5:35:55 PM PDT by PhiKapMom

"Isn't some country like Libya heading the U.N. Human Rights Commission. Weren't we kicked out?"

I know we started the Human Rights Commission. I know we were kicked out. I don't remember what paragon of virtue country we were kicked out in favor OF...I thought it was Sudan or China.

1,645 posted on 09/12/2002 5:45:22 PM PDT by cake_crumb

My thought was that he increased his "paygrade." Bribery and blackmail can be two sides of the same coin.

1,646 posted on 09/12/2002 5:47:51 PM PDT by Samwise

"If the Islamic monkees had to hit New York, why couldn't they have hit the U.N. building?"

Don't be ashamed. I know I wondered the same thing. The answer is that UN resolutions are ENABLING the Islamist terrorists. Whenever they kill too many people, and make the rest of the world really mad, the Islamonazis have ALWAYS screamed for UN protection, as well as citing UN resolutions as justifications for their crimes. I have no idea why more people haven't woken up to a pattern which as been repeated, with increasing frequency as they become bolder, for DECADES.

1,647 posted on 09/12/2002 5:51:41 PM PDT by cake_crumb

"I still cringe when he says "nucular" though. I know that's a regional thing like saying "Warshingon", but that's the kind of thing that the fancy boys and loveless girls over at DU jump all over."

I cringe too, mostly because the mispronunciation of the word "nu-CLE-AR" has always got on my nerves, and also because I know the petty will jump on it as a chance to discredit and ignore him. Maybe he should go on mispronouncing it: I know he know, at least basically, how nukes work, and also the mispronounciation will bring out all the vile pettiness into the open for the reading and listening plesure of mainstream America.

Know thine enemy. LOL...the more the so-called "progressives" show just how small minded and unimaginative they are, the better mainstream America gets to KNOW them.

1,648 posted on 09/12/2002 6:01:10 PM PDT by cake_crumb

To: The Great Satan

"Nobody is going to kill Saddam Hussein. He is personally to all intents and purposes invulnerable. That's what having WMD is all about. It works"

Oh, puh- PEASE cut us a break. We are not NOT going to take our Saddam's regime on the OFF chance that he MIGHT unleash some WMD on US in retaliation. The very IDEA is only more proof of WHY preemtive action is necessary. You are the one who's dreaming.

1,649 posted on 09/12/2002 6:06:59 PM PDT by cake_crumb

"I know -- think that is why I am savoring today! It happens so seldom that the press actually supports what President Bush has to say!"

Yep. Today has been a GOOD day for people like us. There have been WAY to few. They need to be savored. That's why I'M still online too. :- )

1,650 posted on 09/12/2002 6:11:23 PM PDT by cake_crumb

Brit Hume is really the last of a kind - a professional, probing, fair and challenging journalist. He's still about the who, what, where, why and how approach. He's feared by the lefty swill - there's a guy name Brian Lambert who is a media critic for the St. Paul Pioneer Press, and he did a column on Fox News with all the predictable tripe about catering to the inflammatory right wing, corporate Rupert Murdoch agenda, anti-Clinton, anti-gay, anti-minority witchunt etc. I wrote him and set him straight (LOL), and he sent back a note with a nasty comment about Brit Hume. This was right after Hume's son died, and I had noted and admired the classy and strong way he shared the tragedy with the audience and worked through it. The fact some ham 'n egger who makes his living interviewing Carrotop is ridiculing a guy who worked the White House beat for ABC News and now is the number one newsman on the top Cable News Network really irked me. I let this creep have it with both Arne-riffic howitzer barrels. I made fun of his career stagnation to wit his job watching Moesha and Buffy the Vampire for a living. I revisited his pathetically ill-fated and short lived talk-radio show. I laughed at his ill fated and short-lived TV news gig. I made fun of his botched, Carribean-hip themed MC intoduction of Jimmy Buffet at a concert I had attended 15 years earlier. "This is a guy who makes drinking fun again." LOL

Brit is a class act, his great crime was the audacity to ask Clinton real questions - and then follow up to challenge Clinton's usual meely-mouthed lie. Served with a smug blow off, of course.

It's a shame that there are so few journalists, and especially interviewers, who have a working knowledge of their guest, his/her biography and issue positions from a historical perspective. Brit does. I'd want to see him interview Tom Daschele or Terry McAullife for 60 minutes. The medium is being wasted. 75% of the TV guys/gals have no involvement in the discourse (i.e. actually listening to the answer) and totally lack the ability and knowledge to challenge inconsistencies or move into unplanned territory with a solid foundation of insight and skill. I hate the Today show/Bill O'Reilly crap - Couric is the most incompetent, scripted hack in the field, and O'Reilly is only interested in presenting his opinions. The guest is a prop. The guest is a tool for Matthews, Savage, the CNN "Capital gang", McLaughlin, and Donahue etc. to show their brilliance. Snow, Zahn, Imus, King, Lehrer, all the morning zombies ... they're all just potted plants or working the shill slot. Martha Stewart nicely tells Jane Clayson she's there to make summer doilies and not to discuss her shareholder lawsuits and Justice Department investigation into insider trading ... and Jane firms up and challenges that insult to her professional duty: "Y'know, these doilies would be acceptable at a leisure picnic or a more formal sit down dinner ..."

Brit Hume is a true professional. He can deconstruct the position of a Newt Gingrich, John McCain, David Brock or Jesse Jackson in a methodical, skillful and neutral way. Michael Medved is the best around at that. Jason Lewis here in Mineapolis is really good, Gwetta Van Susteren listens too, so does Hugh Hewitt, Hannity, Neal Cavuto (and really all the Financial reporters - they are fearless interviewers). The guy who hosts the Fox media-analysis panel is great. The C-SPAN hosts, Brian Lamb for one, are terrific interviewers on Booknotes and absolute Druids during their interviews with political guests - and especially those idiot callers. That damn "non-partisanship" facade - right. That morning show is a trip into contrived, organized disinformation. "Republican Line from Manhattan, is the caller there?" "I'd direct my outrage at President Bush, but he didn't really win the election ..."

Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, the late Barbara Olson, Mary Matalin, Victoria Tensing, E.D. Donahay ... the Pubbie/Fox women rock and they are smarter and have bigger "ones" than the men. Except for Mark Levin. I'm amazed he's got "them" the size of canned hams, and I'm amazed he can stand upright with that ballast below. He's a guy you'd like to sit next to on a barstool and rip people for a few hours. Ingraham and Coulter would be quite the twosome to club-hop with. I'll bet that's a scary good time.

1,651 posted on 09/12/2002 6:11:28 PM PDT by ArneFufkin

To: isthisnickcool

"I apologize. I mean to add a :) to that post...."

No apology necessary. I had it coming. LOL (At myself) it was a truly STUPID mistake. I haven't gone back to see if the AM removed my reply yet....guess I should, tired or no.

1,652 posted on 09/12/2002 6:17:02 PM PDT by cake_crumb

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1,653 posted on 09/12/2002 6:17:10 PM PDT by agitator

When I'm in "Warshington" handling "nucular" material, I make sure my "IN'surance" is paid up. That's one I love from our Southern friends ... "With a mouth like that, you better have your INsurance papers current, boy."

1,654 posted on 09/12/2002 6:17:53 PM PDT by ArneFufkin

I'm actually trying to plant seeds of thought for our evil stalkers:

"Man, let's just pray that terrorists never blow up Harvard or Berkeley" ...

1,655 posted on 09/12/2002 6:21:20 PM PDT by ArneFufkin

1,656 posted on 09/12/2002 6:32:22 PM PDT by rintense

I was actually GAWPING while reading your post. I, sir, do NOT gawp. Then I read it again; and gawped again. I sit in AWE of your succinct description of what I personally term "Jerry Springer Journalism" (used to call it Geraldo Journalism years ago). Your description is correct on ALL counts.

Brit Hume is INDEED a class act: an old time journalist who gets to know his subject via srtingent research. His questions are intelligent, and he knows the subject behind the question well enough to catch any "what is is" prevarcation.

Also, I agree with your assessment of other honest journalists...with the exception of Van Sustrin, who turned me off while she was still with CNN, during the OJ trial. Maybe I should re-think my opinion and watch her more often.

My hat is off to your excellent post. OK...I'm not wearing a hat, I'm drinking a beer before bed, so I raise my can and salute you. BUMP.

1,657 posted on 09/12/2002 6:33:49 PM PDT by cake_crumb

Sam, I don't see a bribe NOW. There's no real tangible payoff for either party. Why would Saddam pay Scott Ritter a truckload of cash when he has the U.N., Germans, French, Muslim States, Canadians, American news media, Pat Buchanan and his Jurassic Juke Orchestra and the U.S. Democrat Party to do his P.R. nonsense for free. Ritter has no weight. He lacks ... yes ... GRAVITAS.

An inside source at UNSCOM, however, from 94-97 who could share the organization's "secret and fully planned impromptu inspection schedule" with interested Iraqi parties was worth a fortune back then. "Looks like we just missed them again! Let's grab some dinner."

Maybe they paid him then. Did he have financial issues? Maybe they caught him, or railroaded him, with some other affair that demands death or imprisonment under Islamic law or obliterates the career of a high-profile U.N. hero, Media-darling and decorated Marine. Lots of ugly stuff happens, and Saddam is not really a guy constrained by any boundaries of human shame or Islamic tenet.

Who knows. Maybe his U.N. payroll check bounced. Maybe he believes the shit he's flinging. Maybe he's compromised, but it's gotta be something major ... like something lurid involving Peter Arnett and a camel.

1,658 posted on 09/12/2002 6:36:29 PM PDT by ArneFufkin

To: Admin Moderator

Thank you. LOL (at myself) nothin' LIKE hittin' the abuse button on yourself to make you realise you've done a stupid, STUPID thing. Thank HEAVEN I've only had to do it to myself twice.

1,659 posted on 09/12/2002 6:43:56 PM PDT by cake_crumb

Maybe they paid him then.

and own him now.

Maybe he's compromised, but it's gotta be something major ... like something lurid involving Peter Arnett and a camel.

LOL

Or maybe he is just plain nuts...

1,660 posted on 09/12/2002 6:55:19 PM PDT by Samwise

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