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Live Thread: Bush Speech to U.N.
www.freerepublic.com | September 12, 2002

Posted on 09/12/2002 7:02:45 AM PDT by Howlin

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To: Howlin
Yes! He nailed that "thing" ... that corrupt, soulless "thing" ... that we all have seen and despise in that woman. And her husband. It was a beautiful insight into the selfish, sociophathicly disconnected nature of Hillary Clinton. He was disgusted with her cynical take on this country's beauty when he obviously had found a larger lesson yesterday in the strength of the American ideal and the goodness of our human character.

Peggy Noonan disappointed me a bit last night, Gergen is always a blathering idiot ... but Barnacle saw Bush as some of us here do, and he understood the commitment, strength and resolve of the man. Noonan and Gergen and Matthews are playing patty-cake with the "what-ifs" regarding U.N. action, they're jibba-jabbing about whether Bush's cowboy tendencies have been muted by smarter people (i.e. Powell), and Barnacle's saying "nah, we're going - world blessing or not." Barnacle was inspired, as we all should have been revisiting that day and what has transpired since.

Matthews is such a dorky political mechanic he doesn't understand the intrinsic force of right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, and win vs. lose that guides the great leaders throughout history. I really have only followed Presidents from late term Nixon forward ... and Reagan and Bush 43 are different from the rest. On issues of import, they see the world in black and white, and they have the courage to act. Thank God.

1,601 posted on 09/12/2002 2:51:14 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Darlin'
Thanks. Shepard Smith is always on top of things.
1,602 posted on 09/12/2002 2:57:50 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: ArneFufkin
When is Scott Ritter on CNN tonight? Anybody know? I want to check his FOX afternoon wounds and see if he contradicts himself AGAIN.
1,603 posted on 09/12/2002 2:57:55 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: ArneFufkin
Been doing the surfing channel thingy and seems SOME of the reporters who gave W a B+ on his speech at the UN are doing a 180 degree turn. They insist that the evidence is not there, and that the whole UN does not support action against SadDANM! Media WHORES are still saying the majority of RATS, even some pubbies and the public are not in line to support W entirely into a FULL BLOWN WAR. CLYMERS! I guess you can't take the LIBERALISM out of them, NOPE! NOPE INDEED, they're back to their SHAMELESS ANTI-AMERICAN SELFISH WAYS! It was good while it lasted though!
1,604 posted on 09/12/2002 3:00:20 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Carolinamom
Is it possible that Ritter was compromised by Iraqi agents during his tenure at UNSCOM, and is being blackmailed now? There is no rationale for him to take such an adamant position in this debate, especially since he has been out of the loop for nearly 5 years. He's not an expert, he's not informed. He's got to be afraid of something, he can't be working to gain something. Perhaps a desperate attempt to stop the disclosure of his true activities and loyalties during his inspection mission is behind this. He's not insane, he's lying and furtively sabotaging the credibility of Bush's Iraqi mission.

That's my bold, controversial and unwarranted Michael Rivero-esque theory of intrigue, conspiracy and wonderment for today.

1,605 posted on 09/12/2002 3:12:21 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Something very strange is behind the Ritter flip / flop. Your guess is as good as anyone else's. I was thinking he was being paid off. Maybe blackmail is the REAL deal.
1,606 posted on 09/12/2002 3:16:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: PhiKapMom
I've been watching the President this week; through the 60 Minutes piece and onto his appearances 9/11 and speech to the UN.

The most startling impression I'm left with is how "real" he is. He's out there talking from the heart, not politicing, posing for the cameras or wrapping himself up in his own rhetoric. He's pretty much a WYSIWYG President.

How refreshing.

1,607 posted on 09/12/2002 3:22:08 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: mwl1
He said he couldn't stand to HEAR HER VOICE on a day like 9-11 after watching all the good families with the president.
1,608 posted on 09/12/2002 3:29:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
You all kept me entertained all day here. Over 1600 posts! Wow!!

Thanks for pinging me so I could keep up on what was going on today as I stuck at work. I really appreciate it.
1,609 posted on 09/12/2002 3:30:58 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: RoseofTexas
Rose, I'm just praying Maureen Dowd is supportive. She's a Pulitzer Prize winner you know. She's acerbic, colloquial and chock full of clever pop-culture references. She'd write just like Mark Steyn, Dennis Miller or P.J. O'Rourke if those writers were a bit unfunnier, less smart and not so talented.

But, no military campaign is mired in a "hopeless quagmire" until Maureen says so. She used the term F-15 "Strike Eagle" once, and she likes the way Tom Cruise wears flight suit.

She's much prettier than Catherine Zeta-Jones too. Michael Douglas was obviously threatened by a smart, independent woman.

1,610 posted on 09/12/2002 3:35:08 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Howlin
HA! ... Thanks for the update on Ritter
1,611 posted on 09/12/2002 3:52:14 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: RightWhale
"Leading by talking is for a debating society."

That's all Kofi's capable of : talking. President Bush didn't pull his punches while reminding him of his IRRELEVANCE this morning <G>

Whew...I have FINALLY gotten up to my OWN posts from today....only a couple of hundred more to go! This has been the BEST thread I've seen in a LONG time!

1,612 posted on 09/12/2002 4:02:38 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: CWOJackson
Bush is unflappable. He withstood the smears of cocaine use and being AWOL from his military duty, he withstood the John McCain media onslaught, he withstood the foreign leader quiz ambush and resultant ridicule from the smarty set, he withstood revelation of his alcoholism, he withstood the DUI crap, he withstood the Florida election stuff .... all with dignity and measured class.

It was humorous how Democrat elitists misread him. Cheney ran the office, remember. His Daddy got him the job. His brother fixed the Florida election. He was a back slapping frat boy. Bush was a bumbler, a dullard. That was the image crafted for him by the media, and accepted by the left.

Americans didn't see that. They saw an honest, conscientous leader. They didn't think he was stupid.

From the first time I watched him operate, during the New Hampshire primary, I always saw him as an astute, disciplined executive. He was clear and sincere.

I think he was honestly committed to creating a new atmosphere of cooperation and bipartisanship in D.C. The Dems took this as weakness and naivete. It wasn't weak, but it WAS naive.

Many here try to marginalize Bush supporters as blind acolytes. That's insulting, but moreover, it's ignorant. I vote for President based on my read of his overall ideology ... but more importantly, his judgement, character and discipline. I liked the way he treated Laura. I loved the way he handled that nutjob Gore during the debates. I liked the way he handled the Chinese/surveilence plane event. It was never a crisis. Bush won my proxy early on - I don't micromanage every single legislative accomodation he makes, I trust him to pick his battles wisely. I don't have access to his information, his strategy and his constraints. Nobody here does. I support him because he's a conservative, he's a good manager of a good team, and he's honest and strong.

He's a winner. He wins the right way, for us.

1,613 posted on 09/12/2002 4:03:00 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: cake_crumb
Discussion is getting hot. Time for action is approaching. Won't be much longer.
1,614 posted on 09/12/2002 4:05:26 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: ArneFufkin
Very well stated. Anyone who has taken an "honest" look at this gentleman comes through it impressed.
1,615 posted on 09/12/2002 4:07:57 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ArneFufkin
"But, the folks out there - good willed Americans watching "American Idol" and lost in their Fantasy Football rosters - still think the U.N. is some moral beacon that should be involved. We're not going to need ANYTHING from the U.N. to execute this mission."

Absolutely true. Too many Americans need to take those blinders off and see what the UN has really become: the power behind the greenie environazis is: the UN. The power behind the Third Way movement is: in the UN. In addition, every terrorist action anymore, every one of their atrocities, is justified BY them TO the world by...you got it...UN 'resolutions'.

No, we don't need the UN to execute this mission. The United States and our staunchest ally, Britain, are all that is necessary. Oh, yeh, we can successfully go it alone, but we appreciate Britain's support, both the moral support and the physical military sullort.

1,616 posted on 09/12/2002 4:10:35 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: GeorgiaDawg
"Okay...the million dollar question: What does everyone think the time frame will be for military action? Weeks? Months?"

Awwww....but the SUSPENSE is the BEST PART!

1,617 posted on 09/12/2002 4:13:36 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Darlin'
"I've decided it must have something to do with his contract renewal talks."

Probably. I LOVE all the old-timer-left-wing reporters who're now trying to get into "fair and balanced" mode in a pathetic attempt to save their totally biased careers.

1,618 posted on 09/12/2002 4:17:53 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: egarvue
"Hate to say it, cake crumb, you've been had."

LOL...I sure HAD been had...it wasn't until I went to backspace to "whitehouse.gov" to get the link for the transcript of the UN speech to send to my mom, who missed it because she was driving back to VA from vacation up here that I realized it. I don't get the alphabet networks, because I refuse to pay extra for them, so I didn't even know aout the 60 Minutes II interview until this thread.

I DID, however, read the REAL transcript on the CBS website. It was an AWSOME and extremely powerful interview. Well worth the read.

I LOVE GW. I said it before, and I'll say it again: if we weren't both already married, I'd have proposed to him two years ago!

1,619 posted on 09/12/2002 4:24:05 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: ArneFufkin
I liked him when I saw that he treated everyone at campaign stops the same way...press, blue-haired old ladies, big-shot locals, donors, teenagers...all got the same courtesy and attention. I never once saw him lash out at someone, even though some deserved it.

Not one other candidate had that quality. Not one.

I also saw him do an impromptu press conference in both Spanish and English, translating back and forth for both groups of speakers. Therefore, I knew he wasn't stupid. Ha!

Brit Hume on Fox during the roundtable talked about President Bush's strategy with the UN and said he wouldn't be surprised if the next step is "OK. we are going to nuke Baghdad" and the UN says "Oh, no! Please let us do a conventional invasion!" LOL!

1,620 posted on 09/12/2002 4:26:00 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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