[DrLiberty]

"So, then, you agree that Ritter's right on the money, that all mideastern strife can be laid at the door of the CIA?"

Stop putting words in my mouth.

the CIA started the whole afghan muslim resitance movement and gave the whole impetus to the terror movement.

But dont trust me. Ask Zbignew Brzinski. Go read the Grand Chessboard.

The CIA also created Hussein, backed him, gave him chemical weapons to use in Iran (surprised used them on Kurds?).

Obviuosly there would be strife in the mideast regardless. But in everyone of these situations, we always see the CIA's footprints leading from the crash site. Hussein, Bin-Laden, etc. Its all a game.

[Cyber Liberty]

"Ask Zbignew Brzinski."

You lost me forever with those three words.

[js1138]

Obviuosly there would be strife in the mideast regardless. But in everyone of these situations, we always see the CIA's footprints leading from the crash site. Hussein, Bin-Laden, etc. Its all a game.

I find it refreshing to have a president who says what he means. The problem with the CIA involvement in the middle east is that we never had a president with the balls to say that these governments are evil and need to be replaced with modern constitutional republics. Now we do.

It's true that we helped the Shah of Iran take power, but it was leverage rather than force. Most of the people supported it. Most of the people are still opposed to Islamic law, and wish it was safe to overthrow it.