Apollo astronaut says he hit man in self defense

CNN ^ | 9/12/02

[TomB]

Bart Winfield Sibrel has been making moving image productions for thirteen years. Based in Nashville, Tennessee, his national credits include work for NBC, CNN, The Nashville Network (TNN), The Learning Channel (TLC), and the Discovery Channel. His awards from the American Motion Picture Society include Best Cinematography, Best Editing, and two Top Ten awards. He has also won Videomaker's Magazine's Best Drama award

If I remeber correctly, a lot of that is "embellishment". However, it should be pointed out that he may have been fired from his job as a cameraman at a local NBC affiliate in Nashville for trespassing on Neil Armstrong's property trying the same bible stunt.

[ofMagog]

Personally I don't believe we landed on the moon either.

See post 60 above. I saw one or two in my business who doubted our landing on the moon...

[rvoitier]

Hi Shooter,
(ahem) I don't believe Oswald killed Kennedy either. At least not alone. But I do believe the 'nauts landed on the moon. Check out my profile page.

[A CA Guy]

What a sick F that guy is.

Hope a judge sees that. He stalked Buzz over and over.
Called it his job.

He needs a vacation in a prison cell with Bubba where he will enjoy a different position. Maybe many!

[A CA Guy]

The OJ Jury thought that was a true!
They never believed OJ was there either.

[Shooter 2.5]

The only reason people believe that has nothing to do with eyewitnesses, autopsy reports, trajectories or the Zapruder film.
It has more to do with the fallacy that the King can not be harmed by the peasant.

[rvoitier]

FWIW, I base my belief of a conspiracy on, yes, the Zapruder film showing Kennedy's head snapping backwards, the astronomical odds of getting off 3 rounds in that amount of time and on bullseye, the fact that arlen sphincter...er...specter explained the wounds by a "magic bullet," and the fact that Kennedy and his brother just pissed off too many powerful people.

[Shooter 2.5]

No, you never looked at the Zapruder film and compared it to a damaged item that was shot.
Like I said, the reason people believe the conspiracy theories is that they can't believe it was so easy for the peasant to kill the king.

[rvoitier]

I'm not sure what you mean about comparing the Z film to a damaged item, or for that matter, peasants killing kings. My question is, how can anyone dismiss out of hand a governmental role (and I mention a governmental role because the gov't is the only one able to pull off a cover-up) in the assassination of JFK? Are people in power positions of our government so pristine and innocent?
Again stating my reasons for believing only that Oswald did not act alone:
Even if there was a *10* second time frame...to be able to bullseye 3 shots to a moving vehicle (at varying speeds) under that stressful situation and through a tree is too incredible for me to believe. Also, Arlen Specter's explanation for all of the wounds to be accounted for is pure child-like halucinatory fantasy. Remember, this was a time in American history where the people still whole-heartedly believed their gov't officials...well, the great majority of us, anyway.

[Shooter 2.5]

Oh, the big bad government did it. That's your proof?

My son from the time he was fifteen years old could have made that shot just like I mentioned that the FBI, the NRA and a CBS crew duplicated it. That shot is very simple. Oswald should have used a pistol so he could get more shots off.

Go to any gunshop in the country and ask them if it's so hard.
Recoil, two more shots in 7+ seconds at less than 88 yards at a target moving away at 11` miles an hour. Ask them.

[tpaine]

Again, stating my reasons for believing only that Oswald did not act alone:
Even if there was a *10* second time frame...to be able to bullseye 3 shots to a moving vehicle (at varying speeds) under that stressful situation and through a tree is too incredible for me to believe. Also, Arlen Specter's explanation for all of the wounds to be accounted for is pure child-like halucinatory fantasy.
Remember, this was a time in American history where the people still whole-heartedly believed their gov't officials...well, the great majority of us, anyway.
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Well said, RV -- But be aware that to FR's new government apologists group, ANY criticism of the standard PC line is now considered unpatriotic. You must obey the dictats of groupthink.

[rvoitier]

Horse Hockey! hehehe To further my point from above, Check this out. It's about 2 megs.

[tpaine]

I can't access your linked info with my machine, sorry.

- But in any case, I've argued the JFK case ad nauseum, for years now, with the FR government apologists, to the point where I was recently forbidden to address one of them on the subject.
They can insist to you there was no cover up, -- but beware that you do not 'insist' to the contrary.

[rvoitier]

Thanks for the heads up!

Guess anything's possible...'cept Oswald being the lone shooter!
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[Shooter 2.5]

.577 T Rex.

[rvoitier]

Hi Shooter,
I envy you guys that can id munitions on the spot. I had a friend (r.i.p.) who was like that.
Thanks for the heads up.

[Shooter 2.5]

You're more than welcome.
I learned a few things just by doing the research on the JFK assassination. I only look at it as a shooting incident.
What I learned from research was:
The definition of a "Pristine Bullet".
The definition of "Cratering".