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Mel Gibson Attacks Vatican
NewsMax.com ^
| 9/13/02
| Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 09/13/2002 5:08:13 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks; Buggman; Caleb1411; Dataman
...where he underwent an attack of hematidrosa - where victims sweat blood as a result of profound emotion or great fear. Common mistake. That IS NOT what Dr. Luke says. Anyone care to expose the error, for the Big Money? (c8
Dan
Biblical Christianity web site
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posted on
09/13/2002 6:59:25 AM PDT
by
BibChr
To: kattracks
When I was in seminary training many years ago, I came across an account of the Passion of Christ written by a physician. It described in detail the weapons and torture devices used by the Roman military. It described in very vivid detail, the trauma caused by each tool. I was totally drained emotionally by the time I finished reading about it. The Gospel telling of the Passion is understatement personified. After reading the medical account my love and admiration for Christ increased expotentially.
If Mel follows the gospel and truely shows what Christ suffered, it could bring about a Christian revival.
To: kattracks
Does anyone have the transcript of the full interview?
To: Askel5; patent; sinkspur; ELS
fyi
To: kattracks
Gibson's objections to the post-Vatican II Church echo those of the members of the Society of St. Pius X, which broke away from Rome partially because of the abandonment of the Latin or Tridentine liturgy. It has chapels scattered around the U.S., where the liturgy is the pre-Vatican II Tridentine mass celebrated in Latin.
Im not sure he is SSPX, he may be more of a Sedevacantist. I think that is a rather confused issue.
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:25:07 AM PDT
by
patent
To: leprechaun9
Can you tell me more about this remarkable priest? Perhaps in freepmail?
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:27:16 AM PDT
by
narses
To: kattracks
Sounds to me like Mel didn't leave the Catholic Church, the Catholic Church left him.
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:29:13 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: TEXASPROUD
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:33:12 AM PDT
by
narses
To: BibChr
Is your statement here based on the omission of the relevant verses from Papyrus 75, Sinaiticus, Alexandrinus, Vaticanus, and other majiscules and miniscules?
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:34:58 AM PDT
by
Remole
To: patent
Thanks for the redirect.
As posted to Narses on the other thread:
In the recent movie "Signs", Gibson plays a married man with two children who had a crisis of faith six months prior which caused him to leave his ministry. Throughout the film, folks have a hard time remembering not to call him "Father", a drugstore clerk insists on "clearing her conscience" by detailing her sins to him and -- at the close of the film when his faith is restored, he again dons his Roman collar and returns the crucifix to his wall.
Particularly given the absolute dearth of adverts, I can only conclude that the focus of the film with regard to "Product Placement" was married priests.
I am extremely uneasy about anyone's looking to Mel Gibson for some witness to the faith. I say this as a longtime (since "Year of Living Dangerously") fan who has no reason to believe he's not a good man.
He may also be a faithful Catholic but this article -- coming on the heels of his big-screen pitch for married priests moreso than in advance of his playing Christ -- does not bode well. I suspect Hollywood (agit prop dogs of the White House) knows they have a goldmine as far as the Catholic Gibson is concerned.
Does not bode well.
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:37:44 AM PDT
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Askel5
To: Askel5
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:38:17 AM PDT
by
Askel5
To: Federalist#34
So, people will be able to watch Gibson portraying Jesus and then, with the click of a button, watch his chunky little butt bobbing up and down in
Lethal Weapon?Is this progress?
Comment #33 Removed by Moderator
To: kattracks
Back in the 50's and 60's, my parents voted straight-ticket democrat. But the Dems back then were guys like Kennedy and Truman. Since Reagan, though, they are staunchly Republican. They contend that they didn't leave the Democratic Party... The Democratic Party changed dramatically and they wanted no part of it. Speaking as a Catholic of 38 years, it is my opinion that the Catholic Church is also going to lose a lot of its adherents in the same way... Devout Catholics are going to seek out a more conservative sect.
To: kattracks
It's true though.
Stripping our Mass of the ancient, traditional langauge of worship was a conscious act of cultural genocide. It cut us off from the roots of our culture and burned our bridges to the pre-Catholic ancients; Something not even the darkest of the so-called Dark Ages could do entirely!!
The deformation of the AmChu in the wake of this linguistic Terror followed like the night follows the day. We were always more vulnerable because of certain aspects of American culture. The homosexuality of the clergy is not the worst problem in the AmChu; the rampant mediocrity, anti-intellectualism, sappy feminization and inabilty to appreciate beauty--all of this flows directly from the guillotining of the Latin Mass.
To: Domestic Church
"...There is an agenda to trigger another schism from many sectors including the population control bunch and this sort of media spin, taking Gibson's conservative faith and using it as a tool against the Church, is highly orchestrated....Hmmmm. You are probably correct. But it's hard, sometimes, not to react when one is a reactionary...
To: narses; TEXASPROUD
I've seen the article that JAMA published. I think TEXASPROUD is referring to a book entitled, "A Doctor at Calvary". It's a very tough read.
Comment #38 Removed by Moderator
To: goldstategop
As a kid, I poked around in various churches, looking for something I could call my own. I tried the Baptists, the Nazarenes, Assembly of God and Methodism before I finally tried the Roman Catholic Church. Like Mel Gibson and a lot of others, the ritual and mystique of the Mass seemed to me to be the proper way to worship God.
Then came Vatican II and I was lost again.
Little by little though, I have found my way back to God by watching for those parishes that celebrate Mass in Latin.
I suppose it could be argued that my faith is superficial, that it is too dependent on pomp and ceremony. That may very well be true, though I'm probably not qualified to judge... but it's MY faith and it feels right to me. Evidently it feels right to Mr. Gibson and a growing number of others too.
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posted on
09/13/2002 7:57:06 AM PDT
by
oldfart
To: HDMZ
Thanks for the clarification. (slapping forehead). I should have known when I saw the word "London".....
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