Does Patriotism Mean Love of Big Govt?

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[niki]

Shame on you. :)

[gcruse]

Incoming!, I'm sure. ;0)

[gracie1]

Loving your country while hating the government is perfectly rational.

Yeah, I always felt a good American should regard politions as a group of thirteen year olds at a sleep over. Don't turn your back on them for a minute or the whole neighborhood is tp'd, or worse.

[gracie1]

Giving money and power to polititions is like giving car keys and whiskey to teenage boys
-P. J. O'Rourke

[Consort]

Big, small, or any size — we have to control as much of it as possible or the Socialists/Liberals/Democrats will. Same thing with public schools and everything else.

[DAnconia55]

Of course it does. Just take a poll here.

[VaBthang4]

[Copernicus]

You might find this relevant and interesting:

"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size.

I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom.

My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them.

It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution, or that have failed in their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden.

I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is 'needed' before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible.

And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' interests, I shall reply that I was informed their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can."

- Former Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Ariz.), "The Conscience of a Conservative"

[Valin]

Very well put!

[Uncle Bill]

Bttt

[Uncle Bill]

Washington's $782 Billion Spending Spree

[Eagle Eye]

Intersting sign. Did you mean to demonstrate your support for Big Government and socialism with it?

Baldwin is Pro-Life, anti-Big Government, Pro 2A, and prefers to voice principle over party. His Southern Baptist roots gives him a disdain for Libertarians.

He hosts interesting people in his church: Jesse Lee Peterson, Howard Phillips, and Buchanan's VP candidate (can't recall her name).

Your ignorance is obvious to anyone who can read what he writes without having a knee jerk reaction, let alone to anyone who knows Baldwin even a little.

If you are an idication of what a Conservative is today (try reading the post directly below yours with quotes from Goldwater) then that movement is dead.

[MileHi]

If you are an idication of what a Conservative is today (try reading the post directly below yours with quotes from Goldwater) then that movement is dead.

There are many other examples of self-proclaimed "conservatives" on this forum that buttress your conclusion.

[Eagle Eye]

A conservative seems more and more like a liberal with differing opinions. Both are wanting to mandate and deny individual behavior.

I cannot believe that people actually believe that the role of government is to rule people's lives and that the Founders intended it that way. But, that seems to be prevalent among so-called conservatives.

Let's also not forget the the shrillness they demostrate when they see themselves in the mirror that people like Chuck Baldwin holds up to them.