Is bin Laden a terrorist mastermind -- or a fall guy?

[tallhappy]

And your purpose in posting this is.........?

[MJY1288]

It's always nice to see Pro-OBL articles here on FR < /sarcasm > OFF

[JIHAD JOE]

You have it all wrong. the reason I posted this is to show The bad judgement of the Liberal-Left mentality. Lefties like her were wrong then about Bin Laden and they are wrong now in their judgement of Sadam Insane and his threat to us.

[MJY1288]

Well... It helps to make a comment or add "Barf Alert" to the title. When we see you are new here and posting a pro-OBL article like this one, How can you blame anyone for questioning your motives?

[hole_n_one]

At a minimum, you should provide a source and a link........

sans that, you're the only readily available target.

[hole_n_one]

jihad joe is a rat

[MedicalMess]

This writer is delusional, at best poorly informed.

[JIHAD JOE]

What do you use for brains? Your'e so dumb you should join the Democrat Party. Grow a brain.

[hole_n_one]

Your'e so dumb.....

The Apostrophe

[The Great Satan]

"Bin Laden is a true believer and a funder of Islamic causes, rather than a planner and active participant," says Professor Shibley Telhani, a Middle East scholar from the University of Maryland who has followed his career. "His real influence is not as a mastermind of terrorism but as a person who is using a personal fortune to encourage others to wage war against the American interests in the Middle East he finds so objectionable."

Correct. OBL was a PR/recruitment guy, not a military mastermind. Saddam is the military mastermind. However, this is not to say OBL was simply a bit player. The establishment of a pool of would-be human missiles represents a military revolution of comparable significance to the development of the ICBM. Most of the dummies who call themselves analysts (the jokers at Stratfor and The Economist, for instance) are too thick to pick up on this, but the import of this breakthrough was not lost on Saddam Hussein. He's never wanted for the Vision Thing, let us give him that.

[JIHAD JOE]

You're. So what, moron. Can you spell, Potato(e)?

[hole_n_one]

Not only have you called President Bush a moron, you've called me one as well.

You're making one hell of a first impression.

[palmer]

Saddam is the military mastermind.

Here we go again. Can you give me one example of his military genius? What I saw in Iran and Kuwait were screwups both militarily and strategically.

I'll admit this to the poster of the article though. When I first heard the Bin Laden did it explanation after 9/11, I asked myself proof? I didn't hear much then and haven't heard much since. So my theory was that these guys self-organized. They didn't need Bin Laden and they didn't need Saddam, all they needed was some planning and some money (and not really much of either).

I have no proof for my theory, but it fits one fact very well, the fact that 9/11 wasn't uncovered in time to be prevented. Any planning or support involvement from overseas like from Bin Laden would have been intercepted. We allegedly tapped his cellphone and I think we would have intercepted other communication as well.

[The Great Satan]

Can you give me one example of his military genius?

Have you checked the New York skyline lately?

[palmer]

Have you seen the pentagon? (it's totally rebuilt)

[The Great Satan]

Great. Whoopie-effin-do. When do they put those three thousand people back together? Got a time frame for that?

[palmer]

They are dead. Part of the reason they are dead is the Bush administration ignored Richard Clarke's report (he was chair of counter-terrorism under Clinton) to focus on higher priorities. If they had implemented even just some of Clarke's suggestions 9/11 could have been detected or prevented. One of their higher priorities was Saddam. Then and now, Saddam distracts from the war on terror.

[The Great Satan]

Then and now, Saddam distracts from the war on terror.

LOL! I think I'll trust Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rice, Woolsey, Blair, Kirkpatrick and Mylroie on this, and take your opinion with a "grain of salt." Not that I don't have the highest respect for your intellect, of course.

[palmer]

Thousands dead. I frankly have no idea why you are laughing.