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The Politics of Flight 93
Reports ta the Folks Back Home ^ | 16 September 2002 | Congressman Billybob (J. Armor, Esq.)

Posted on 09/16/2002 4:14:03 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

This much we now about Flight 93 that was hijacked on 9/11: The terrorists flying the plane were turning it back toward Washington, to use it as a flying bomb against the Capitol of the United States where Congress was in session. At that time, the flight crew had probably already been murdered by having their throats cut.

By using their cell phones, the passengers found out that other hijacked planes had already been flown into both of the World Trade Towers. They may have known about the third plane that hit the Pentagon. The passengers reasonably concluded that their plane was intended for a similar fate, and that they and many others would die in the planned crash if they did nothing.

Led by a group of four large and strong men, they rushed the cockpit to try to take back control of the plane. They used the only "weapons" they had – their strength, their commitment, a beverage cart, and pots of boiling water. From the evidence on the cockpit voice recorder, they did get into the cockpit. The plane either crashed during this struggle, or the terrorists crashed it deliberately as they were losing control.

One of the last communications from anyone on the plane was Todd Beamer's exhortation to the others, "Let's roll."

The simplest way of dealing with people who say the United States should not act at all, or not act now against terrorist threats looming in the future, may be this: All such people should be asked this question –

What would you have done, on Flight 93?

To Secretary General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan: What would you have done? Would you have sought the agreement of all nationalities aboard Flight 93, before you did anything? That would include, of course, negotiating with the ambassador of the terrorists. If you could not get such agreement, would you have just sat there in your seat, waiting to die?

To the editors, reporters and columnists of the New York Times: Would you have concluded that the evidence wasn't clear? That Todd Beamer hadn't "made his case"? That no one had proved the "alleged" terrorists were going to kill everyone on the plane? Would you have pulled out your laptops to write up the story, sitting in your seats, waiting to die?

To Li'l Tommy Daschle, Majority Leader of the Senate: Would you have said, it's too early to make a decision on this now. Politics should not be involved. Let's just wait until after the election to decide on rushing the cockpit? Besides, "I want to be the man in charge, not Todd Beamer"? Would you have sat in your seat, waiting to die? And while you are pondering that question, keep in mind that Todd Beamer and the other passengers may just have saved your life and those of all your colleagues. Have you ever heard the quote, "Mercy drops down from Heaven like the rain. It falls on the just and the unjust alike."?

To the so-called leaders of the European Union: Would you have said, this is an American plane, not a European one. Unless the European airlines are involved (and we have no reason to think they are), this is not my problem? Would you have grumbled quietly about the quality of the food, the vintage of the wine, and the arrogance of the American passengers, blaming America's foreign policy for putting you in this situation, and sat in your seats waiting to die?

To the so-called leaders of France: No need to even pose the question. You're cheese-eating surrender monkeys. Next.

To the Muslims in America: Would you have exchanged high-fives with your "brothers" on the plane? Wished them well? Accepted their apologies for the unfortunate need for your demise? Said with them, "Allah akbar," and asked to go to the cockpit so you could have a good view of the "glorious strike against the infidels"?

To Dan Rather and CBS News: Would you have said, "This story isn't all about me"? Would you have said that it's important to understand the grievances of the hijackers? Would you have asked your cameraman to set up, so you could get an interview with one of the hijackers, and tried to borrow Todd Beamer's cell phone for the important business of patching the clip through to the news desk? Would you have imagined the glory of saying on live television as the plane was going into its final attack mode, "This is Dan Rather, reporting from close to Ground Zero"? Would you resent the passengers for cheating you out of this once-in-a-lifetime scoop?

To Geraldo Rivera: You know that Dan Rather is a washed-up wuss. You would have gotten the interview, and jumped out the door of the plane with the tape in your pocket, in hopes they would find your body, play the tape, and award you the first ever posthumous Emmy, right?

To the Framers of the Constitution and the victors in the American Revolution: No need to ask you the question. You already answered it in writing. Your answer is found in the final paragraph of the Declaration of Independence which you signed under the threat of being hung by the neck until dead as traitors to King George III. You pledged your "lives, fortunes and sacred honor" to the cause. That's answer enough.

To the readers of these columns: I have no doubt of what you would have done, either. You would have acted just as Todd Beamer and the others did. You would have tried to reach your families, to tell them what was happening, and say, "I love you." Then you would have joined Todd and the others in the effort to save all your fellows, and all those on the ground who were the targets of the terrorists on your plane. You would have known your task was nearly impossible, but you would have done it anyway.

This is really a simple question. That is the secret of "the politics of Flight 93."

What would you have done, on Flight 93? Ask it of yourselves. Then ask it about all those who claim to be leaders – leaders in public office, opinion leaders, whatever. The respective answers to that simple question could do a lot to define the future of the United States, and the worthiness of those who would claim to be her leaders in the perilous times ahead.

What would you have done, on Flight 93?

(C) 2002 Congressman Billybob. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annan; cbs; danrather; daschle; eu; flight93; france; iraq; letsroll; newyorktimes; toddbeamer
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To: NorCoGOP
Like any FReeper worth his or her salt, I'd like to hope that I would have done the same.
41 posted on 09/16/2002 8:14:27 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: 2Trievers
"Every action is measured by the depth of the sentiment from which it proceeds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson, Essays: First Series: Spiritual Laws, 1841.
42 posted on 09/16/2002 8:20:41 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: don-o
You are semi-racists by using WASPs. Americans are any nationality that live here and love this and what it stands for. Unless you are Native American, your ancestors (or you) immigrated from some other country.
43 posted on 09/16/2002 8:42:46 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: don-o
Interesting semi-racist post.
When the Titanic went down, Americans wept for the victims and raised as emblems of manhood those heroes who saved others and went down on the ship. Capt. Archie Butt, who kept order on the deck with the sight of his pistol and the pull of his strong arm, particularly, was seen as the paragon of Anglo-Saxon manhood. This, of course, opposed to all those Italians, Irish, and other scum who rushed the life rafts.

Now, what's the difference here? Equality in 1912 was for Anglo-Saxons. Equality today is for all Americans.

Those were not serfs who submit to the nearest authority that rushed the cockpit on #93.

44 posted on 09/16/2002 8:43:38 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: don-o
You are semi-racists by using WASPs. Americans are any nationality that live here and love this country and what it stands for. Unless you are Native American, your ancestors (or you) immigrated from some other country.
45 posted on 09/16/2002 8:46:18 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: mathluv
Exactly! American is a state of mind, not a skin color.
46 posted on 09/16/2002 8:49:23 PM PDT by maica
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To: PsyOp; Congressman Billybob; weikel; hchutch; Robert_Paulson2
>>>>...To the Muslims in America: Would you have exchanged high-fives with your "brothers" on the plane? Wished them well? Accepted their apologies for the unfortunate need for your demise? Said with them, "Allah akbar," and asked to go to the cockpit so you could have a good view of the "glorious strike against the infidels"? >>>>>>>

"The Jihadists are fools and naive,their lack of vision will be their undoing....Everything is proceeding as planned...They will be destroyed...I have foreseen it...."

"BEGIN LANDING YOUR TROOPS"

LET'S ROLL

47 posted on 09/16/2002 9:43:25 PM PDT by Senator_Palpatine
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To: PsyOp
Pinged for an answer, and here it is. I'm not exactly sure what my exact course of action would be.... as to how to stop the terrorist.

Prior to this madness of uanarmming all passengers I've always had a sharp pocket knife (you know the kind an Old Timer 3 blade with one about 3" long so I would have had it on this flight) that would have been stuck into one of the hi-jacker(s) or slashed the throat(s) of as many as I could take by surprise. One thing we can assume - the action was quick on flight #93; assume like-wise in an unfortunate incident where every move counts towards life or death by how you choose to help in being part of the solution. Even if I died for my actions in a hyupothetical as you ask - I would die moving forward.

48 posted on 09/16/2002 10:29:34 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Congressman Billybob
For serious discussion of Flight 93 and its fate go to the discussion board on www.airdisaster.com. Many pilots and aeronautical engineers post there.
49 posted on 09/16/2002 10:41:52 PM PDT by slym
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To: Issaquahking
"I would die moving forward."

Absolutely. If you know its going to happen anyway, die on your feet fighting.
50 posted on 09/16/2002 10:50:02 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Congressman Billybob
What would Tom Daschle have done on flight 93?
51 posted on 09/16/2002 11:39:16 PM PDT by Nephi
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To: Congressman Billybob
I'm not a psychoanylist but in my opinion ANY or ALL of the passengers would have acted against the terrorist because of the human instinct for survival.I would have done the same as Todd Beamer as a natural instinct for survival because I knew if I had not acted I would have perished anyway,and acted in the hope for survival of myself and all the other passengers.
52 posted on 09/17/2002 12:25:22 AM PDT by cavador
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To: PsyOp
Re #14

Bump.

53 posted on 09/17/2002 1:16:14 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: don-o
Not semi-racist. Had nothing to do with WASPs. Had nothing to do with Americans of other extractions (we are all extracted from somewhere). Had a lot to do with a culture of democracy and independent action. Had a lot to do with the comfortable use of freedom. While these things are not unknown in Europe or Asia or South America, they are still very strong here.

Thanks for the observation.

54 posted on 09/17/2002 4:17:51 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: ErnBatavia
Obviously, we did, : (
55 posted on 09/17/2002 5:30:24 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Trickyguy
What would I have done on Flight 93? I would have taken my .357 Sig that I should been allowed to carry on the plane, and shot every terrorist dead before they cut anyone's throat.

Given the effects of adrenalin on marksmanship, I have three questions for you.

How many nonterrorists would you consider to be "acceptable breakage?"

Are you sure you'd have enough ammunition?

How well would you perform if the terrorists started shooting back at you?

56 posted on 09/17/2002 5:46:53 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Issaquahking
You're only unarmed if you're mentally and morally unarmed--and a pocketknife (or a submachiengun) is not sufficient to overcome such self-disarmament.
57 posted on 09/17/2002 5:48:52 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Congressman Billybob
Another sign for tonight's Hillary Freep! Thanks
58 posted on 09/17/2002 5:52:30 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: Congressman Billybob; PsyOp
What would you have done, on Flight 93?
It stands as a challenge which will resound though time . . .

59 posted on 09/17/2002 7:18:03 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: Poohbah
How many nonterrorists would you consider to be "acceptable breakage?"
compared to kamikazeeing into the Capitol, you mean?

60 posted on 09/17/2002 7:22:14 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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