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To: Tom Bombadil
Europeans, South Americans, Asians, in my mind they would all have waited and hoped for the best. That American trait of individuals organizing and taking the initiative was Bin Laden's greatest oversight. May he not rest in peace.

Interesting semi-racist post.

Your take is that American WASP's are the only folks in the world who can be counted on to do the right thing?

And that Europeans, South Americans, Asians are not really Americans? Even though they are American citizens?

27 posted on 09/16/2002 6:56:14 PM PDT by don-o
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To: don-o
You are semi-racists by using WASPs. Americans are any nationality that live here and love this and what it stands for. Unless you are Native American, your ancestors (or you) immigrated from some other country.
43 posted on 09/16/2002 8:42:46 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: don-o
Interesting semi-racist post.
When the Titanic went down, Americans wept for the victims and raised as emblems of manhood those heroes who saved others and went down on the ship. Capt. Archie Butt, who kept order on the deck with the sight of his pistol and the pull of his strong arm, particularly, was seen as the paragon of Anglo-Saxon manhood. This, of course, opposed to all those Italians, Irish, and other scum who rushed the life rafts.

Now, what's the difference here? Equality in 1912 was for Anglo-Saxons. Equality today is for all Americans.

Those were not serfs who submit to the nearest authority that rushed the cockpit on #93.

44 posted on 09/16/2002 8:43:38 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: don-o
You are semi-racists by using WASPs. Americans are any nationality that live here and love this country and what it stands for. Unless you are Native American, your ancestors (or you) immigrated from some other country.
45 posted on 09/16/2002 8:46:18 PM PDT by mathluv
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To: don-o
Not semi-racist. Had nothing to do with WASPs. Had nothing to do with Americans of other extractions (we are all extracted from somewhere). Had a lot to do with a culture of democracy and independent action. Had a lot to do with the comfortable use of freedom. While these things are not unknown in Europe or Asia or South America, they are still very strong here.

Thanks for the observation.

54 posted on 09/17/2002 4:17:51 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: don-o
Only here in the United States would ordinary people take the initiative as they did on flight 93. Europeans, South Americans, Asians, in my mind they would all have waited and hoped for the best. That American trait of individuals organizing and taking the initiative was Bin Laden's greatest oversight. May he not rest in peace....Tom Bombadil

Interesting semi-racist post. Your take is that American WASP's are the only folks in the world who can be counted on to do the right thing? ....And that Europeans, South Americans, Asians are not really Americans? Even though they are American citizens? .... don-o

Tom is intimating that people who are a part of the American culture (Webster’s Seventh New Collegiate: behavior typical of a group or class) have always somehow been different from other cultures with respect to (what a certain right-wing radio talk show host chooses to call) rugged individualism.

His comment had nothing to do with race. And nowhere did he classify Americans simply as WASPS. Nor did he even intimate that naturalized Americans are not just as American as you or I.

If you’re not a leftist, you certainly have borrowed the put-words-in-my-opponent’s-mouth-and-then-refute-them strategy from the leftist playbook.

Sometimes thin-skinned, quibble-prone, race-hypersensitive people are loathe to even acknowledge that there are inherent differences in people, simply because of the environment in which they -- and often their ancestors – exist(ed). Whether race-hypersensitive people like it or not – and their frequent vocal protestations serve as evidence that they don’t – Americans, as a people, are different from Asians and Europeans in many ways.

If you define 'American' simply as 'one who lives within the geographical boundaries of America', you need to take off your blinders and start thinking outside of the box. Americans in general (especially those whose roots have been here for more than a generation) are a unique brand of people. And those whose families have walked on American soil for many generations, and whose ancestry/heritage is a source of pride to them, tend to be particularly rugged and individualist. That is not to say that other cultures do not boast either characteristic, or that Americans have a corner on them. They are simply often very common traits among Americans with deep roots. Their ancestors were, after all, the ones who traveled to the New World – and who crossed thousands of miles of unexplored, inhospitable territory in the expansion from east to west.

Stand on any street corner in France, or Italy, or Japan, or Indonesia, and – assuming you are fluent in the language – converse with the passersby. I guarantee you’ll know that you are not among Americans, simply because they are a different people. Not necessarily better or worse .... simply different.

Whether Tom was accurate in his assessment (only here in the United States would ordinary people ….) is irrelevant to your response. The fact that you labeled him a semi-racist for expressing a belief in cultural behavior differences says more about your intolerance than his.

65 posted on 09/17/2002 9:33:53 PM PDT by joanie-f
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