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To: yendu bwam
Well, after you look up the term "prudence" in the dictionary, DO NOT run for any judicial posts in your State.

You have done a very good job of trying to smear every single Bishop with the significant sins of SOME of them. Guilt, by your standards, applies to an entire class of people just because they are in that class.

So did Karl Marx.
37 posted on 09/19/2002 11:43:19 AM PDT by ninenot
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To: ninenot
You have done a very good job of trying to smear every single Bishop with the significant sins of SOME of them. Guilt, by your standards, applies to an entire class of people just because they are in that class.

Ninenot - Get off your very high horse. The fact is, the majority of bishops appears to have been involved in shuffling molestor priests around. All of them certainly knew fully well that there was a huge homosexual molestation problem in the Church, and all of them certainly knew that a huge contingent of Catholic priests are practicing homosexuals. They have all been collectively SILENT about all of this for years - until forced to admit to it by the press. Now, they can't even admit that homosexuality has something to do with the problem. There are some good bishops to be sure. I don't know which ones they are, given all the lies from the Church.

38 posted on 09/19/2002 11:49:44 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: ninenot
Guilt, by your standards, applies to an entire class of people just because they are in that class.

No, I do not believe that. And clearly, some bishops have been more guilty than others. But - again, this homosexual putrefaction has been going on in the Church in America since the 60s and 70s. We've got a fair number of seminaries which are homosexual brothels and which are now unfriendly to normal men, we have 1/3 of the priesthood which is actively homosexual, we have thousands of homosexually molested boys across the country (and in many other countries as well), we have molestors shuffled from one place to another. In response to this, the bishops collectively have done, prior to their recent conference, just about NOTHING. The American bishops wanted, if you will remember, more power to govern themsevles collectively - hence the American bishops' conference. Well, the Pope (foolishly) allowed them some latitude, and the result is the queerized, molestatory Church we now have. While some bishops are more heavily slogging through the deep doo-doo of total hypocrisy and lies and a total disregard for the welfare of children, I DO believe that ALL of the bishops bear significant responsibility for this situation. I have'nt heard of bishops who were fighting tooth and nail to bring to light the homosexualization of the seminaries, or the teenage boy molestation problem. Only one, I repeat one bishop at the recent conference had the guts to submit that this entire sorded affair even had something to do with homosexuality. C'mon. The bishops collectively, even if not directly involved in abuse or shuffling themselves, have known fully well of this situation for years. They are, collectively, moral cowards, who, for the greater part, should not be in charge of our Church. Of course, not a one has been removed. Says something, doesn't it?

39 posted on 09/19/2002 12:45:15 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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