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To: Desdemona; ninenot
Please, though, don't paint all clergy with one color. It's just not true. Otherwise, continue bickering. Those who would destroy the church for whatever reason are just eating this up. Divide and conquer. It seems to be working.

I don't paint all the bishops with the same color. But even the 'good' ones have soiled colors right now in my opinion. I am still outraged that that wonderful bishops conference couldn't even admit that homosexuality has something to do with all of this. Do you realize how dishonest that is? Do you realize that they are treating you and me and all the rest of American Catholics like morons? The reason I push what I see to be the truth about this is that the bishops don't. I firmly believe that if we collectively give the bishops a pass on this (which is what many are already doing), the situation will NOT be cleaned up, and many more kids will be injured. As for what the enemies of the Church think, I could care less. When you wound yourself deeply with a saber, the fact that your enemy is encamped on the other side of the forest seems to be less relevant. Worse yet, we can't even admit to the nature of the saber or of the wound. I'm a devout and loyal Catholic, and that's precisely why I don't feel like giving the apologists and feel-gooders the time of day. I want to see some truth about this situation (which I haven't); I want to see some real results (which I haven't); I want to see some preventive measures for boys who are exposed to priests (which I haven't); I want to see the resignations of the shuffler priests (which I haven't); I want to see crystal clear words from the Pope about what is going to be done about this (I haven't); I want to see the Church dequeerized (which I haven't); I want to be able to trust priests with the care of my children (which I can't); I want to trust the hierarchy and the priests to teach authetic Catholicism (which I can't); I want to be able to trust the Church to teach my kids authentic Catholic sexual morality (which I most certainly cannot). Not too much to ask for, is it?

43 posted on 09/19/2002 1:11:30 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: yendu bwam
You're not alone. So don't ever think you are.

Do I know how dishonest this is? Yes. I have a college degree in the field that creates this kind of lies and distortions. It's called public relations only because the Nazis used propaganda. I've been calling it for what it is all along and nobody wants to believe me. The basic morality of human nature is highly overrated.

We don't always get what we want - a life lesson learned the hard way. I don't want to have to go through all this either. I just think that fighting amongst ourselves does more harm than good.
45 posted on 09/19/2002 1:45:41 PM PDT by Desdemona
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