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10-Month bin Laden Mystery: Dead or Alive?
The New York Times ^ | 09/30/2002 | JOHN F. BURNS

Posted on 09/29/2002 7:23:56 PM PDT by Pokey78

TORA BORA, Afghanistan, Sept. 23 — This is where the trail ran cold.

With the uncertainties surrounding Osama bin Laden since the Sept. 11 attacks in the United States — whether he is alive or dead, in Afghanistan or Pakistan, or perhaps in some hide-out much farther afield — this much is known: The last sightings of the leader of Al Qaeda of which pursuers can be reasonably certain were here in the White Mountains of southeastern Afghanistan.

Those sightings came nearly 10 months ago, when the main mountain base at Tora Bora that had been used for years by Mr. bin Laden and his followers came under two weeks of intensive American bombing. Targets for the B-52's included dozens of caves in the forested heights above the base that were used as hide-outs and ammunition depots. The base was left a field of blasted debris, and many caves disappeared beneath hundreds of tons of rubble, burying forever anybody within.

From the Tora Bora district, in the shadow of 14,500-foot peaks, it is a grueling six-hour walk up rock-strewn riverbeds and precipitous mountain trails to the international border, and on to remote tribal areas of northwestern Pakistan. The trek is swifter on horseback, often favored by Mr. bin Laden during the years when he was regularly at Tora Bora, according to villagers. Since the bombing in December, glimpses of him and an entourage of Arab militants, sometimes on horses, have been reported by tribespeople on both sides of the border, mostly from locations within a range, north and south, of about 100 miles.

Many of the tipoffs, American officials say, have been little more than hearsay; others have been prevarications by Qaeda sympathizers. Although raids have led to the arrests of scores of Arab militants, in Afghanistan and Pakistan, none have produced solid leads to Mr. bin Laden's whereabouts. Nor has the $25 million reward for the Qaeda leader proved of much avail. In a region of widespread poverty, the bounty has collided with ancient tribal traditions of secrecy, an abiding suspicion of outsiders and a profoundly conservative form of Islam that has favored the Qaeda fugitives and isolated their American pursuers.

The frustrations for American troops have not been helped by the suspicion that here at Tora Bora, where Mr. bin Laden was all but trapped, indecisiveness on the part of American commanders, or perhaps reluctance to risk casualties, may have helped him escape. If he fled to Pakistan, he did so over snow-choked mountain trails that were not blocked by American or other allied troops until after the bombing — an oversight that some of the allies point to as having squandered the best opportunity of the war to snare America's most wanted man.

Within weeks, high-ranking British officers were saying privately that American commanders had vetoed a proposal to guard the high-altitude trails, arguing that the risks of a firefight, in deep snow, gusting winds and low-slung clouds, were too high. Similar accounts abound among Afghan commanders who provided the troops stationed on the Tora Bora foothills — on the north side of the mountains, facing the Afghan city of Jalalabad. Those troops played a blocking role that left the Qaeda fugitives only one escape route, to the south, over the mountains to Pakistan.

Months later, exactly what happened here has been obscured by the political crosscurrents of the war. Some Afghan commanders who fought here are deeply embittered against the Americans for reasons related to perceived American favor or disfavor in the warlord struggles that continue to feed tensions around Jalalabad, as elsewhere in Afghanistan. American commanders never disclosed much about their strategy at Tora Bora and remain reluctant to discuss operational details even now.

Helping the Fugitives
One important fact, though, seems to have been that some of the Afghan commanders at Tora Bora had links with Mr. bin Laden going back to the late 1980's, then found themselves drafted into the hunt for him after Sept. 11. One of these men, Hajji Zaman, who fled Afghanistan for sanctuary in France last spring, was accused by rival Afghan commanders of organizing a brief American bombing halt a few days into the attack to allow him to negotiate Qaeda leaders' surrender, only to use the standstill — with the inducement of a hefty Qaeda bribe — to help the fugitives escape.

Another commander, Hajji Zaher, said in an interview in Jalalabad that he had pleaded with Special Forces officers to block the trails to Pakistan. "The Americans would not listen, even when I told them that one word with me was worth more than $1 million of their high technology," said Mr. Zaher, 38. "Their attitude was, `We must kill the enemy, but we must remain absolutely safe.' This is crazy. If they had been willing to take casualties to capture Osama then, perhaps they'd have to take fewer casualties now."

Among American commanders, the legacy of Tora Bora, and of the unyielding hunt for Mr. bin Laden, has been one of deep uncertainty and even dissension. Gen. Tommy R. Franks, in overall command of United States military operations in the region, has said for months that he does not know whether Mr. bin Laden is dead or alive. But senior officers of the Joint Special Operations Command, deploying the elite units like the Delta Force that are responsible for counterterrorism, have argued that he was probably killed by the bombing. Some senior officers believe that it is time to scale back the manhunt, on the assumption that he is dead.

Another possibility, some American officers believe, is that Mr. bin Laden, who is 45 if he is still alive, died of sickness at Tora Bora and was buried somewhere in the heights, after the bombing interrupted the dialysis he needed to survive a longstanding kidney condition. This version has been tentatively supported by President Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, who has assigned 10,000 troops to the border areas to support the manhunt. General Musharraf has said he thinks it more likely that Mr. bin Laden is dead than alive.

In the mountains surrounding Mr. bin Laden's old base, named for the nearby village of Melawa, all that is left now is a pastoral stillness. Along a riverbed below, tribesmen with donkeys drag tree trunks and roof beams salvaged from the forest and villages obliterated by the bombing. Scavengers have mostly disappeared, leaving little but litter of rusting barbed wire, twisted ammunition boxes, torn pages from the Koran, discarded flashlight batteries — and plastic bags of a Pakistani-made dextrose drip that, physicians say, could be used for dialysis treatment.

Some of the largest caves lie above the ruins of the stone-walled buildings that served as living quarters and defensive bunkers for Mr. bin Laden and scores of other Arabs. Since the bombing, they have been accessible only through cramped crawl spaces opened by American and Afghan troops digging through tons of collapsed earth and rock. In the clammy darkness, the deep caverns are filled with piles of unexploded ammunition, including mortar shells and rocket-propelled grenades. Afghan soldiers, fearing that the caves are booby-trapped, warn intruders to stay well away.

Clues as to what became of Mr. bin Laden have been pored over by Special Forces teams and Afghan militia units that stayed on here for weeks after the bombing. Reporters, too, have trekked out from Jalalabad, 20 miles from Melawa — or more than three hours in a jeep over the tortuous dirt track Mr. bin Laden paid to have cut through the foothills. Ranging over the mountains, clambering up to caves, questioning the villagers who have returned to settlements on the heights abandoned during the bombing, the strangers have pretty well exhausted everything the mountains, and the mountain people, can tell them.

The conundrum remains, though. If Mr. bin Laden died here, nobody has been able to find any trace of that, not among the dozens of Arab fighters' bodies strewn across the mountain ridges after the bombing, and not in the caves the Special Forces teams could still enter or dig into. The possibility remains that he lies dead somewhere in one of dozens of sealed-up caves that villagers say were never searched, or perhaps in a shallow grave somewhere in the maze of gullies and ravines that flank the mountain trails.

He Could Be Far Away
All this leaves American forces with the frustration of continuing the hunt for Mr. bin Laden without the spur that would come from knowing, with reasonable certainty, that he is still alive.

According to some theories, Mr. bin Laden could by now be a long way distant, perhaps in one of the teeming cities of Pakistan. Two raids that have netted the most important Qaeda suspects seized so far outside the United States — Ramzi bin al-Shibh, a Yemeni and former roommate in Hamburg of Mohamed Atta, pilot of one of the planes that hit the World Trade Center, and Abu Zubaydah, Al Qaeda's operations director — took place, respectively, in Karachi and Faisalabad, two of Pakistan's biggest cities.

American officials do not discount completely, either, the possibility that Mr. bin Laden could have fled farther afield, perhaps aboard one of the small vessels, or dhows, that ply the Arabian Sea between Pakistan's desert coast and his ancestral homeland of Yemen — the ancestral homeland, too, of many of the Sept. 11 hijackers. In an interview with an Arab newspaper more than three years before Sept. 11, Mr. bin Laden said he yearned to return to the "mountains and deserts" of Yemen.

Another question that dogs the manhunt is how much Mr. bin Laden, as an individual, matters. When the first months of the hunt passed without his capture, or proof of his death, President Bush and other top American officials began suggesting that even if he was still alive, he was of diminishing importance, because he had been deprived of much of the network he needed to run Al Qaeda's terrorist plots. An opposing view is that alive, he is potentially as menacing as ever.

Even if the need to lie low has defanged him for the moment, his success in evading the toughest troops in the American forces — with every advantage of satellite technology and helicopters and other modern technical wizardry — has made him an irresistible icon to many in the Muslim world, especially among the alienated young.

At Tora Bora, most villagers take a narrower view. On the question of Mr. bin Laden, good or bad, many villagers are equivocal. In the wily way of those who have seen armies come and go, they give the impression of thinking it too early in America's war with Al Qaeda to venture a view. But the relief that he is no longer a force in their neighborhood — and no longer a magnet attracting American bombing — is palpable.

In hindsight, at least, some villagers say the Arabs were never popular. A tribesman working as forester in the Melawa area, Kudrat, 35, said that once Mr. bin Laden and his followers took over the Melawa base — in the summer of 1996, after being forced under American pressure to leave Sudan — his writ was paramount. "He had a lot of armed people with him, Arab people, and they behaved in a rude and arrogant way, as if they were the owners of heaven," Mr. Kudrat said.

As for Mr. bin Laden, the forester added: "He was very rich, and he behaved like a king. If he wanted something, he simply ordered it, and the Taliban gave it to him."

The Melawa base was originally built by the Islamic Party, one of the most radical of the Muslim guerrilla groups that fought a jihad, or holy war, against Soviet occupation troops in the 1980's. The villagers said the base underwent a major expansion under Mr. bin Laden, with new buildings, some with concrete foundations, including a house for himself. It was here, with bookshelves and carpets and a television set linked to a satellite dish, Afghan officials say, that he gave some of his interviews to foreign reporters in the late 1990's, setting out plans for a holy war against the United States.

The villagers said Mr. bin Laden made important allies among tribal chiefs in the area, building and repairing mosques and madrasas, the Islamic religious schools, as well as buying materials for the base. But by the fall of 1996, the Taliban seized Kabul, the capital, consolidating their rule in Afghanistan. After that, the villagers say, he became only an occasional visitor to Tora Bora, spending most of his time with the Taliban leaders, 400 miles away at their stronghold in the southwestern city of Kandahar.

According to the villagers, he returned for the last time sometime in the weeks after Sept. 11. From then on, he appears to have remained mostly out of sight. Mr. Kudrat, the forester, said the last time he saw him was when Mr. bin Laden and about a dozen of his Arab followers visited Mr. Kudrat's home village of Khan-i-Merajuddin, about two miles from the Melawa base, on the evening of Nov. 30. This was about four days after the American bombing started.

Hours later, Khan-i-Merajuddin was bombed, with dozens of villagers killed, including, Mr. Kudrat said, nine of his own relatives. But by then, he said, Mr. bin Laden and his group had left. Asked how he could be sure it was Mr. bin Laden he saw that night, Mr. Kudrat replied: "Everybody knew who he was. He was tall, he had the skin color of an Arab, a long turban, and he had a long beard, black and gray. He had very long arms. The other Arabs with him treated him like a god. They mounted their horses, and rode away."

An Intercepted Voice
American commanders, asked what proof there was that Mr. bin Laden remained at Tora Bora during the bombing, have referred to an intercepted conversation, by radio, in which a voice thought to have been his was heard giving instructions to Qaeda fighters telling them to spare Afghan Muslims, if possible, but to fight to the death against the Americans. A similar message, over his signature, was found in pamphlets in the pockets of some of the Afghan militiamen killed by Qaeda rocket fire at Tora Bora.

An Afghan commander who held part of the front line at Tora Bora, Alim Shah Qaderi, said he had been told of one last sighting of Mr. bin Laden, at the village of Tangi, close to the Pakistan border, on Dec. 8, shortly before the bombing ended. Villagers there, Mr. Qaderi said, had told him that a man who looked like the Qaeda leader, along with a group of about 20 other Arabs, had ridden into Tangi on horseback late that day, paused for water and to buy supplies, and then ridden on toward Pakistan.

Mr. Qaderi, now back to a civilian life in Jalalabad as chief of the city's creaky telephone service, said he had remained at Tora Bora for weeks after the bombing, working with American search teams. But those teams, he said, had left many collapsed caves unsearched, had photographed but not DNA-tested bodies still lying on the mountains, and had not dug up many of the Arab graves that were left on the higher ridges, marked by white flags that were an Islamic banner for Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

"So my final word is this," the commander said. "If Osama is dead, somebody has to prove it, and they haven't. And if he's alive, he won't stay out of sight forever. So what can the Americans do but to keep on searching?"


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To: Barnacle
About a week ago on Rush Limbaugh, Rush said that they CIA had a satellite photo of Bin Laden on a horse at the exact spot a daisy cutter went off about ten minutes later. Anybody know anything about that.
21 posted on 09/29/2002 8:24:47 PM PDT by Higgymonster
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To: dpwiener
exactly...
22 posted on 09/29/2002 8:29:57 PM PDT by robomatik
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To: dpwiener
Plausible. I disagree though that his M.O. is to slowly fade away from everyone's consciousness

He needs visibility to keep his stature as leader of the Al Queda. Not to that group's leadership but to the millions of muslim illiterates that cannot read and must see his image periodically to be faithful to their cause, killing Amerucan civilians.

23 posted on 09/29/2002 8:34:20 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Higgymonster
Nobody really knows for sure,but it seems he is a real media hound and you think he would have released a video lately to prove he was alive,and keep his troop morale high.
24 posted on 09/29/2002 8:38:20 PM PDT by Rocksalt
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To: dpwiener
actually the myth of survival is convenient for BOTH sides, for Al Quaeda to admit he's dead harms their cause and makes our task seem less urgent.
25 posted on 09/29/2002 8:39:22 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: JZoback
Heard some Brit hawking a book a month or so ago. Supposedly an intel expert.

His bottom line: "Show me the body!" Otherwise, UBL "lives" a mythical life.

The guy's other altenatives are that UBL's too sick,
and/or changed his appearance enough such that he wouldn't jeopardize it by making a new tape.

26 posted on 09/29/2002 8:43:22 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: The Great Satan
Bin Laden is almost certainly dead.

I think and hope he is dead. Otherwise, I wouldn't put it past this animal to show up one day and claim he was resurrected.

27 posted on 09/29/2002 8:44:13 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: CharacterCounts
My question is what the reaction would be if he did show up alive in the aftermath of say ... an Iraqi-sponsored WMD terrorist attack on the continental US.
28 posted on 09/29/2002 8:47:49 PM PDT by Angelus Errare
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To: Angelus Errare
Mahdi!
29 posted on 09/29/2002 9:51:55 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Cicero
" But the New York Times is perfectly capable of exploiting his death OR his escape in their vicious campaign to undermine the war."

The Democrats have decided that since Bush is "politicizing" the war, then they will, too. This week's Newsweek has a hit piece about a conflict between the 82nd Airborne and the Special Forces in Afghanistan. Naturally, Newsweek is right and the military is wrong. McDermott's claims that Bush is lying to the American people on Iraq is another facet. The strategy of undermining Bush as a war president and belittling the military's capabilities-is the Democrat's election season Hail Mary pass. Nothing is too sleazy or too contemptible the Democrats-absolutely nothing.
30 posted on 09/29/2002 9:59:28 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Pokey78
C'mon we got Abu Zubaydah and Ramzi bin al-Shibh. Certainly they know if he is alive or dead. If they know, I guarantee that we (as in U.S. Intelligence) now know. One thing that is clearly apparent about President Bush, he doesn't show his cards before they are needed. I would suggest that this one will be played just a little closer to the election. He is dead and it will be confirmed right around the end of October. Has anyone heard anything credible as far as a sighting goes in the past nine months? Even the Paki's would be patting themselves on the back if they were the ones to confirm it. With so many eyes and ears all over the world, someone's intelligence certainly has come up with the answer.
31 posted on 09/29/2002 10:09:02 PM PDT by GallopingGhost
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To: Pokey78
Has-Been Laden was like Bill Clinton still is --- always wanting to be in the media spotlight. Has-Been Laden is most likely in multiple pieces in the Middle East high on a hilltop in a cave that was demolished by the bunker bombs. His spirit of hate and non-tolerance, and threats of violence and terrorism lives on, however.
32 posted on 09/29/2002 10:25:23 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: A Citizen Reporter
How about The Reverend Doctor Osama Bin Laden, Jr.?
33 posted on 09/29/2002 10:31:54 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
I just can't read stuff printed in the NYT in it's entirety.
34 posted on 09/29/2002 11:14:26 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Pokey78
Bump for later read.....


35 posted on 09/30/2002 4:57:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: GallopingGhost
There've been reports, mainly from Afghans, saying that he's alive. Of course, these are the same people who tried to scam the US out of $25,000,000 after claiming that they had decapitated Ayman al-Zawahiri (a DNA test revealed that the head in question belonged to someone else).

The Arabic media outlets, from al-Quds al-Arabi to al-Jazeera, all say that he is alive. So does his spokesman, Suleiman Abu Ghaith. We simply can't find any hard evidence in terms of a new tape (though I'm still waiting for a transcript of his 9/11/02 tribute to the 19 hijackers to judge for myself whether or not it contained new material) to verify such claims. In any case, until we can come up with hard evidence that bin Laden is dead (and if we have any, I personally think it would have been leaked to the press from Congress at this point) the US is acting on the assumption that he's alive. Sometimes it's better to ignore an opportunity to take success than risk looking really stupid if we say he's dead and another videotape comes out with him gloating that America couldn't stop him.
36 posted on 09/30/2002 11:55:50 AM PDT by Angelus Errare
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