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"Hey VaB, you are not alone in this thread when it comes to crazy freepers trying to start silly arguments (i have seen the posts where you got attacked for pinging people)! There are 2 fellas who somehow took some questions i asked in the wrong way. Strangely other freepers answered my questions very well, however these two fellas act like i defecated in their temple and slaughtered their holy cow!"

Here's the problem as I see it...

You have a subject that may or may not be credible....OKC linked to Saddam...

You have honest people who watch from a distance and wait for the case to be made and for obvious questions to be answered.

The problem is the "contrarianites".

Not exclusive to the OKC Saddam link...the Contrarianites flow to anything with a hint of backroom machination or conspiracy.

They come with alot of bluster and passion but when you ask legitimate questions...they percieve the questions as attacks on their identity [which they have firmly rooted in contrarianism]. When you ask for links to stories or sources of information [like any reasonable person does] you are immediately indentified as another dupe or member of the Worldwide Whatever Conspiracy Of The Week.

I read this article....pinged some people to it because I really think it is interesting...and I was immediately accosted by another poster who has had several threads pulled [relating to this subject] because he doesnt provide links to the stories when he posts them. Of course his threads being pulled have nothing to do with his inability to follow simple posting guidelines...no...Jim Robinson is on the Federal Government take [sense the Contrarianism creeping in?].

If I ask a question about a source or link, I too am a member of the kool aid crowd. If you raise legitimate questions, you too are a member of the kool aid crowd. Questioning their questioning is not tolerated. There is only one layer of questions allowed on a particular subject....after that anyone posing questions is a member of the CFR & Worldbank.

So...if that is the route they take, I go with'em. Yeah it destroys a thread but eventually they'll figure it out and stop attacking people for asking questions. It is almost exactly like the situation that arose with the "5" being posted. Everytime you backed the President's play...you got personally attacked....so we started dropping "5" on every thread the Contrarianites came up with...they originally chose to attack everyone who supported going to War with Iraq so we started mocking them with the #5...they got very pissed about it, ranted and raved, went to other sites and complained...but you see they changed their ways didnt they?

...it is unfortunate but it is how it has to be with Contrarianites.

They are like Liberals in how they operate and orientate themselves with others...you have to completely destroy what they are trying to build before they stop and consider their own actions. It'll get rough but dont stop...they will quit.

I saw your [Spetznaz] questions...they are legitimate. What happened? You got attacked.
This is how they operate. I choose not to play their game...when they attack, mock them.

Mock them again and again until they puke and scream for someone to come along and do something about it. Mock them when it is unsolicited. Mock them everytime you see one of their posts.

That is the only way to orientate yourself towards these people. They will figure it out...and maybe in a month or year or two we can all have decent conversations again.

Sad but true.