[glorygirl]

We are still here, Fred, just can't be online 24 hours a day. OKCSubmariner has been banned, however. I would just to everyone on the ping list who feels the way most of do to write to JR and reqest that he be reinstated.

IMHO, Bush and ARI are well-prepared for any questions about an OKC Middle East connection. Ari blew off a question about it from World Net Daily in July. See story list. (in Blue Box above)

The REAL PROBLEM IS THAT NONE OF THE WHITE HOUSE REPORTERS ARE ASKING ANY QUESTIONS.

Note to Sean: Dan Burton is on CNN's "Talkback Live" today. I think Rumsfeld's comment signalled something. If the White House or the Pentagon won't talk, maybe Congress will. Particularly Burton.

Just wish some of these journalists would do their jobs (or at least let us know they're trying in this direction.)

[twigs]

One of the men who appeared on the Smerconish show with Davis addressed the issue of why this has not gotten wings. He said, quite logically IMO, that once a decision is made that an issue is a certain thing (IOW, once it was decided that McVeigh & Nichols worked alone) it gets hard to reverse your path b/c too many people and egos are committed to the initial decision. He spent some time on the show developing this idea and it made a lot of sense.

[Shermy]

Remember, right after 9/11 there were calls to make the FBI more "investigative" than "prosecutorial." That is, look for whole truths, rather than ones that will get "wins" in the Courts. I think a lot of this was at play in the FBI investigation.

And the trial of McVeigh was not meant to flesh out the conspiracy. His lawyer tried to get him off, not implicate him further.

I would like to know the status of the Subway sandwich shop videotape of McVeigh and others. The FBI seized it.

[Marianne]

BTTT

[PhilDragoo]

Jayna Davis' work, affidavits, contemporaneous reports confirm Middle Eastern men with McVeigh, including John Doe Number Two.

TWA Flight 800 wasn't a fuel tank explosion. The obscene lengths the FBI went to to suppress and distort evidence, e.g., bending the fuselage back from its inwardly bent position, indicate otherwise. The most obvious cause would be a terrorist with a Stinger in the boat leaving the scene on the radar track.

Strassmeier as connected to the Hamburg-Atta faction shows promise.

Germany has recently distinguished itself as pro-Iraqi, anti-American.

Still don't understand the banning of OKCSubmariner. At the time I said it was what they do in China. strela said oh no, that's hysterical hyperbole, China is tanks running you over and 9mm's. Funny, I thought China these days was simply censorship of the type they successfully put on Yahoo, while Alta Vista fought it.