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Colonoscopy gone bad
hospital | 10/13/02 | self

Posted on 10/12/2002 4:17:28 PM PDT by Cobra64

Man almost bled to death as a result of a colonoscopy.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bleeding; colonoscopy
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To: All
Well, so much for tort reform from conservatives, considering the comments on this thread.
41 posted on 10/12/2002 5:33:22 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: rollin
So you are willing to let the attorney have 35% to 70% of your award. Find one that works on a paid fee basis. You keep the money. But you will probably not be able to find one that is not out for himself.

I've never heard of a contingency of more than 40%...If you pay a flat fee, what is the incentive for the lawyer to get all he can for you? If he's in on the cut he has a real incentive to get the client as much as possible. Make sense?

42 posted on 10/12/2002 5:35:46 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Cobra64
My husband had a colonoscopy several years ago. He started hemmoraging 2 or 3 days after & passed out. I called an ambulance & he spent a few hours in the ER & then the night in the hospital. The next morning they went back in & cauterized the spot where the polop had been cut. He was fine & when home the same afternoon.

He had made the mistake of taking an asprin & that started the bleeding. He didn't need a tranfusion & it was not really the emergency we thought it was (Than God). I have had a colonoscopy, they found nothing & I had no problems.

It is a very important test especially if you have had people in your family who have had colon cancer. I have & I used the past tense because they are all dead. I will continue to be tested when ever the Dr. thinks I need it.

I am sorry you had such a horrible experience that left you so traumatized.
43 posted on 10/12/2002 5:35:50 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Trust but Verify
When I had my first c-scopy 5 years ago, I had to drink the 2-gallon jug of stuff. Now they've got it down to just a couple of glasses with Fleet Phospho.

Not fun, but not horrendous. Worthwhile to put up with it every few years to be entirely sure of avoiding colon cancer.

By the way, unless I've missed something, I haven't seen one reference on this thread to Katie Couric. People are slipping!
44 posted on 10/12/2002 5:36:46 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: VOA
but I now encourage anyone with a decent case to push the losers of the medical field into jobs where they can't maim

This is another good argument for lawsuits.

45 posted on 10/12/2002 5:37:36 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Conservababe
Tort reform doesn't mean that doctors shouldn't be sued for legitimate malpractice, does it?
46 posted on 10/12/2002 5:38:41 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Cobra64
There is a new alternative. Scan first.

http://www.colonscandirectory.com/
47 posted on 10/12/2002 5:43:26 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I asked my Dr. about the "viritual" colonoscopy too. He pointed out that the worst part of a colonoscopy is the pre test prep. The diet & the stuff you have to drink to clean out your bowel. You have to do it for the "viritual" & then if they decided they have to remove something, you have to prep again. Apparently, they don't just take you right in & remove it then. That & the fact that they miss 10% of polops, decided for me.
48 posted on 10/12/2002 5:44:46 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Cobra64
A good plaintiff's attorney always asks two questions of prospective clients: 1) Are/were you hurt? and 2) Do you need money?
49 posted on 10/12/2002 5:45:27 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Cobra64
Ive got one scheduled in November ..I'll let you know if I bleed to death.....
50 posted on 10/12/2002 5:49:29 PM PDT by woofie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
By the way, unless I've missed something, I haven't seen one reference on this thread to Katie Couric. People are slipping!

Katie Colon ...er Couric....(better late than never)

51 posted on 10/12/2002 5:52:49 PM PDT by woofie
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
Well that depends on if you can afford one. For people who don't have the money for one - it can be a drain on their life savings if they don't win. That's all I was thinking of. I sued the police department once and my attorney got 30% but I received an pretty good sum myself so sometimes it can amount to a good sum and no lawyers fees afterwards.
52 posted on 10/12/2002 5:55:38 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Dick Vomer
"By the way the number 1 reason for malpractice suits against doctors is not poor quality of medicine but poor communication skills towards the patient. Usually you just want to know "WHY?" and a suit is your only avenue... Really bad doctors usually bury their mistakes........."

I can believe that! I had neck surgery almost 2 years ago and have more pain than I started with.

I knew there were risks and might not get any relief but it actually is getting worse.

I have been complaining to the surgeon and my GP and they send me for x-rays, physical therapy etc.

Two weeks ago I found out by accident that the plate they installed to hold the vertabra together is too long and the lower screws are drilled into the DISC instead of the bone. I can't get anyone to tell me if this is bad, not important or sure to cause me to start looking like Cristopher Reeve.

I finally got an appointment with the surgeon (a month from now). I expect another cycle of BS instead of just leveling with me. I feel like I have a hand grenade in my spine, but maybe not, who the hell knows!

53 posted on 10/12/2002 5:59:06 PM PDT by Howie
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To: Cobra64
Speaking from the point of view of having been blinded by a doctor who let a BRAND NEW (I was the second patient)tech assemble the microkeratome incorrectly, then did not inspect it, and used the obviously misassembled tool while looking through the surgical microscope rupturing my eye and leaving me legally blind in my left eye, sue the hell out of them.

Also go the the FDAs website and check the accident reports on the tool. Here is the link to search for accident reports on your tool. The manufacturer of mine had hidden the accidents involving the Innovatome Microkeratome from everyone including the people they sent out to TRAIN THE DOCTORS! There were 10+ other accidents (6 "accidents" prior to mine) that they hid from the FDA. They hid mine for 7 months until it became obvious the FDA was going to find out about it. I found out there are people willing to let people get blinded to protect their job. You always think people have a conscious like you, not so!

Here is what happened to me according to the medical manufacturer! I love the part where the patient is doing well!

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SURGEON REPORTED TO CO'S MEDICAL DIRECTOR THAT THE APPLANUTOR HAD BEEN PUT ON THE SAPPHIRE UPSIDE DOWN. THE FLAP WAS SO THICK IT HAD TO BE HELD BACK. LASIK WAS PERFORMED WHILE HOLDING THE FLAP BACK. THERE WAS A PERFORATION WHICH CAUSED LEAKAGE. PATIENT HAD MINIMAL VISION AT POST-OP. PATIENT WAS DOING WELL AS OF 7/11/99.

 
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54 posted on 10/12/2002 6:00:23 PM PDT by Nov3
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To: Psycho Francis
Smartass.
55 posted on 10/12/2002 6:02:45 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Cobra64
Should the doctor be held accountable?

This kind of excessive bleeding is NOT normal after a colonscopy...but complications can happen. Sometimes these complications are from injury by the doctor, other times they are not anyone's fault. If you had polyps, they can bleed profusely. If you have diverticulitis or ulcerative colitis or any of a number of other conditions, your bowel can bleed after a procedure that would not similarly affect another person. Gastrointestinal net

I'd do some searching on the web and find support groups and message boards dealing with this subject and find a GOOD referral from someone who has been where you are.

56 posted on 10/12/2002 6:05:02 PM PDT by lsee
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To: Cobra64
It's "Diarrhea" :). Think "hemorrhage."

Did you require transfusion?
57 posted on 10/12/2002 6:06:46 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: woofie
Thanks. This thread is now official.
58 posted on 10/12/2002 6:06:47 PM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I've only had one. I'm 42 but my father died from colon cancer, so I have to be careful. Only had two tiny polyps. Gotta go back in 5 years.

I had the Fleet Phospho prep and it was deathly for me. I was so dehydrated I had the worst headache of my life and it took them 5 tries to get an IV going. I'm not looking forward to the next one.

59 posted on 10/12/2002 6:13:09 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Cobra64
DId he inform you of the risks of bleeding (one of the main complications of colonoscopy)? Were you on any blood-thinning meds...and were you told to discontinue them before the procedure?

Bleeding after polyp removal is one of the main complications of conlonoscopy. Were you discharged without instructions on what to do if this complication occurred?

60 posted on 10/12/2002 6:13:14 PM PDT by SarahW
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