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To: Caligirl for Bush
(and the friendly NCO's with some very effective Wall to Wall counseling could help get this fellow's perspective altered)

FYI: From "WALL-TO-WALL COUNSELING FM 22-102"

Wall-to-Wall counseling has been around longer than the American military.

Many famed units used it as their primary motivational tool, and some used nothing else. It's still prevalent in many hardened military units.

The Spartans

The citizens of the city-state of Sparta, Greece, didn't mess around. Wall-to-wall counseling was the order of the day among the Spartan. The Spartans believed in hard training and hard discipline, and wall-to-wall counseling is about the hardest kind of discipline that there is. The Spartans were feared both in war and at peace, and they worked hard to maintain their image. Babies were quality controlled at the time of their birth, and any not meeting the standards were put on the sides of mountains to die Needless to say, until the day when wall-to-wall counseling completely erased the desire of the citizens of Sparta to perpetuate the race, nobody screwed with these people.

Patton

General George S. Patton, the famed World War II tank corps commander was a great fan of wall-to-wall counseling. It showed in the way he led his troops. He never used a kind word when a foul one would do just as well. One of his most famous wall-to-wall counseling sessions occurred in a field hospital. Patton believed that combat fatigue was cowardice, and promised to shoot anyone exhibiting it. On a trip through a field hospital, he ran across a shell-shocked private. When the private claimed that he could hear the shells flying overhead but not exploding, Patton became furious. He slapped the soldiers in the head, waved a loaded pistol in his face and called him a wuss. Then he ordered him back to the front to fight "so the brave soldiers in this hospital won't be contaminated by this coward." That Patton was not punished as severely as he should have been for this deed shows that wall-to-wall counseling has a place in the US Army.

The South Korean Army

The Army of the Republic of Korea uses wall-to-wall counseling in its daily operation. It is sanctioned and approved by the Ministry of Defense. South Koreans feel that the harsher peacetime is, the less the soldier will notice the hardships of combat with North Korea Wall-to-Wall counseling rises to its zenith with the ROK discipline board. This group wall-to-wall counseling session is convened for offenses that would result in punishment by court-martial in the US Army. The soldier walks into the discipline board. Is wall-to-wall counseled, and is carried out of the board, either on a stretcher or on ice. While US Army waIl-to-wall counseling is not likely to result in serious death to the soldier, the Korean discipline board is a model to be emulated by all US Army units.

When should you wall-to-wall counsel?

You should wall-to-wall counsel a soldier when he needs it And all soldiers occasionally need wall-to-wall counseling.

Determining when this most severe of leadership techniques is warranted requires the leader to intimately know his soldiers and be aware of when a soldier is far enough gone that a swat in the head is the only thing that will adjust his behavior.

33 posted on 10/14/2002 9:30:01 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock
I would point out that the Russian Army currently (and historically) specializes in wall to wall counseling.

Beatings are for slaves - free men deserve to be led.

Beating a non-motivated individual incurs a long term cost for a short term gain, and it has been my observation that the transaction is no bargain to the US Army, to speak of just one service.

36 posted on 10/14/2002 9:51:15 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Gamecock
Thanks for the info. Now what can be done with guys like Dr Traitor?
37 posted on 10/14/2002 9:52:55 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Gamecock
When should you wall-to-wall counsel?

We called them "blanket parties" in the Navy. There's a good example in "Full Metal Jacket" before Hartman gets blown away - Private Pyle, 50 of his closest buddies, a bar of soap, a towel, and a blanket.

43 posted on 10/14/2002 10:03:17 PM PDT by strela
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