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To: Peach
i live 4 mi. from this Home Depot. This is my stomping grounds. i had been concerned before, but now i am really worried. i pass this place about 20 times a day. what my husband and i cannot figure out is how they got away quickly! even at night that intersection is fairly busy. This is 2 mi. inside the Beltway, but there are a ton of lights and all kinds of congestion between the Beltway and this intersection in falls church. That is an extremely Latino area of Falls Church, with a large apartment complex directly across Route 50 from the HOme Depot.
4 posted on 10/15/2002 2:29:55 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
You are in my prayers. Be safe.
5 posted on 10/15/2002 2:32:35 AM PDT by Peach
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To: xsmommy
Do you know if the woman was in an enclosed parking garage? CNN was reporting that this morning, but the pictures don't match the reporting.
6 posted on 10/15/2002 2:33:43 AM PDT by Peach
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To: xsmommy
Isn't there a large Mosque in that neighborhood and large Islamic community? I'm thinking the killer came from that immediate area and has thus tipped his location. He knew he could not survive a long trip home this time based on what happened the last time, so he planned this one close to home. He lives nearby. He was home or safe with sympathizers within 10 minutes. This is also the first in Fairfax county and is very different in that it was a site that was not near an Interstate.

Conclusion: this is Islamic terrorism.

51 posted on 10/15/2002 4:23:07 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: xsmommy
I also live near this Home Depot, and have shopped there many times in the past.

Apparently several witnesses saw the truck, and perhaps even the shooter. If that's so, he/they must have been on eastbound Rt. 50 itself or on the access road directly adjacent to the HD parking lot (being inside the lot would be a difficult exit at best, it's kind of tricky getting in and out).

It's unlikely they would have been on Rt. 50, as you say it's very crowded at the Patrick Henry Drive intersection, cars are moving at 40 to 60 MPH, and there's really no place to stop.

So they were probably in the eastbound access road, which means they would have driven another 100 yards to the end, and then forced to turn right onto Patrick Henry (not only is a left turn illegal, it also would be a difficult and extremely bizarre maneuver at that intersection).

So let's say they turned right onto Patrick Henry Drive. From there its another 200 yards to the intersection with Rt. 7 (it seems unlikely that they would have hidden in one of the nearby apartment complex parking lots, but who knows). In any case, a right turn brings them almost directly back to the scene of the crime (actually to the other side of the shopping center - the upper level - where the infamous Michael's is located). A left turn puts them on Rt. 7 east toward Bailey's Crossroads.

By all news reports, the shooting occurred at 9:15 and the police roadblocks started going up at 9:30. The route I've described above would have put them on Rt. 7 eastbound within 5 minutes tops, and that includes waiting out the normal red light at Rt. 7 and Patrick Henry.

They're not using the interstates anymore, they've seen the roadblocks (and these guys have proven themselves to be adaptable). So weren't headed for I-395, they only interstate in that direction. They know that they have a few minutes of an escape window. They know that they had only local roads.

They are obviously heading someplace knowing that (a) all the interstates will be blocked and (b) they have just a few minutes to get off the streets. They are on Rt. 7 east.

I hate to say it, but they would then be only 5 to 10 minutes from one of the largest Muslim enclaves in all of DC Metro. In fact they will pass one of the area's largest mosques only one minute after leaving the Patrick Henry/Rt. 7 intersection.

Of course this could be entirely wrong, the shooter was maybe on the westbound Rt. 50 access road (in the dark parking lot behind the school), but then (a) there would be no witnesses, it's simply too dark on the other side or Rt. 50, (b) its at least 10 minutes drive to the Beltway, if you're lucky (c) there are lots of traffic lights and busy intersections on the way there and (d) the shooters must have known the roadblocks were going up.

Whether they were forced or had chosen to get on Rt. 7 eastbound isn't that important. They knew they had only 5 to 10 minutes to get off the streets. They're headed toward Bailey's Crossroads. The can't get on major highways.

What was their final destination?

64 posted on 10/15/2002 4:59:02 AM PDT by angkor
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To: xsmommy
Gosh, xs, I'm thinking of you too. Be safe.
68 posted on 10/15/2002 5:11:46 AM PDT by glory
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To: xsmommy
You know I live in New York - and I was so upset last night by the shooting I can't imagine how you people must feel. I am so glad we can discuss this on Free Republic freely. Believe me it is effecting us here in New York. We all feel so sick inside at my home about this.
117 posted on 10/15/2002 6:14:45 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: xsmommy
what my husband and i cannot figure out is how they got away quickly! even at night that intersection is fairly busy. This is 2 mi. inside the Beltway, but there are a ton of lights and all kinds of congestion between the Beltway and this intersection in falls church.

IMHO, they had a pre-planed escape and route mapped-out before they killed her. With an escape plan in place, they just waited in the parking lot or wherever for a target of opportunity. I think the killer is not a lone nut. They are hunter killer teams that do this with methodical planning. Shooting people at a distance with no apparent rhyme or reason is difficult things to solve. We can hope they make mistakes and somebody gets a good description that leads to there capture.

173 posted on 10/15/2002 6:45:26 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: xsmommy
They/he/she got away quickly any number of routes: Hoping on route 50, taking that road near McDonalds that heads up to route 7 and into Lake Barcroft community to Columbia Pike, hoping on the road that crosses route 50 and hiting Wilson blvd to route 66, it would have been neat if the perp had hoped on route 7 and sped through the City of Falls Church- he would have been snagged very quickly in that speed trap locale!

I grew up in Bailey's Crossroads and there are tons of escape routes from that Seven Corners area. If it were me, I would have gotten back into the sleepy hollow area and laid low and worked my way over to the beltway.

This perp is a cool customer and I think he isn't rushing onto the major roads to flee the crime scenes.

312 posted on 10/15/2002 7:50:25 AM PDT by fhillary2
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To: xsmommy
Just beginning the thread...prayers for you and your family,
xsmommy.
840 posted on 10/15/2002 11:39:31 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: xsmommy
Stay safe xsmommy. I grew up right there, but probably long before you. It was in the days when Seven Corners was Woodies and Garfinckls.

I doubt they would strike twice in the same place, so you may be in one of the safest spots in No. Va. right now.
872 posted on 10/15/2002 11:55:00 AM PDT by SupplySider
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