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I'm just saying that Muslims who would otherwise be moderate see a return to stricter observance as some kind of protection from the sexualization and homosexualization of Western culture.

Great Ghu, Noam Chomsky doesn't make as many apologetics as you do.

Can we just forget this nonsense and face the fact that we're dealing with a pack of mad medievalists who hate us because of our virtues, not our vices?

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Can we just forget this nonsense and face the fact that we're dealing with a pack of mad medievalists who hate us because of our virtues, not our vices?

That's what the muslim apologists miss in there self hate. At its worst, western civilization is a 100 times better than Islam.

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I don't see lady lawyer making any apologies. In fact, she would probably agree with you that the only way to deal with the radicals out to kill us is to kill them first. What I think you are missing is the fact that when they (the radical Islamists)look at the moral degradation of this country, it helps them rally support. Period. We should clean up our act. Will it stop them? Probably not. But, at least we won't be providing fodder. And, wouldn't our society be better of with a little less perversion, abortion, immorality, etc., regardless of our Islamic enemies?