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To: Palladin
LOL. Maybe some think that. But I often think of a woman I met in the Sudan, Leyla. She is about my age, with three very attractive daughters in their late teens and early 20's. She is a member of the upper classes, with a doctorate, and a large home. She runs a Sudanese women's NGO.

When she learned that I had six children, she got teary. She said that when she was of childbearing age, she listened to the people (mostly Westerners) who said that modern women had small families. She now regrets it.

91 posted on 10/17/2002 12:05:12 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
BTW, when you are asking your friends if one of them will stand up and be counted (and I assume you will). Watch their eyes. As an attorney you are probably a trained observer. I would be curious to know if you see a flash of fear...
92 posted on 10/17/2002 12:10:14 PM PDT by null and void
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To: lady lawyer
Here's another interesting fact about Leyla, which I had forgotten. Her family owned part of the land on which the aspirin factor, bombed by Clinton in Monica's war, was built. She took me there.

There were two things that impressed me about that trip. First, the amazing accuracy of the American cruise missiles. There was a large metal building, and the outside walls were intact. When you opened the door, you could see a bomb crater dead in the center. It was incredible. The whole complex was destroyed. The complex was surrounded by a brick fence, maybe five feet high. On the other side of the fence were undamaged homes.

Second, it was very clear that if there had been any evidence at all that there were chemical weapons or precursors being produced there, we would have known about it. It would have been very easy for someone to get into the complex, after all the buildings were laid open by bombs, and collect the evidence.
93 posted on 10/17/2002 12:10:22 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
But I often think of a woman I met in the Sudan, Leyla.

I knew of a young Sudanese woman. But she was a Christian, not a Muslim. When a Sudanese government patrol demanded that she convert to Islam and she refused, they gang-raped her, mutilated her body (cut off body parts: her breasts, etc), and left her to slowly bleed to death.

Sudan is a hell-hole, and the events like the one described above are not uncommon. The same government which gives the Muslim woman you describe a nice life is murdering millions (over 2 million dead so far) Christian Sudanese in the south, through systematic starvation (burning crops) and even through the use of chemical weapons (Sarin gas, which was used by Commander Taib Musba), not to mention by military atrocities (taking over a village, and murdering those who refuse to convert to Islam, one by one through means too graphic to describe here).

Of course, once all the non-Muslims are eliminated, I'm sure the Sudan will be a region of utopian peace and utopia just like all the other areas under Islamic rule...
221 posted on 10/18/2002 2:12:44 PM PDT by Technogeeb
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