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Civil War author lauds Confederate general
The Capital-Journal ^ | 10/21/2002 | Steve Fry

Posted on 10/22/2002 12:04:52 PM PDT by stainlessbanner

Patrick Cleburne was one of the great Confederate generals of the Civil War, but he wasn't an astute army politician, Civil War author Wiley Sword said Monday.

Cleburne twice told a superior he should resign and made the unpopular proposal to enlist Southern blacks into the Confederate Army.

Sword, a nationally known author, will speak Wednesday at the monthly meeting of the Civil War Roundtable of Eastern Kansas.

Cleburne was one of the "finest divisions commanders" in the Confederate Army, Sword said during a Monday interview by phone from his home in Georgia.

At the battle of Shiloh in Tennessee in April 1862, Brig. Gen. Cleburne, a brigade commander, attacked the camps of Union Gen. William T. Sherman. From that battle, a Union victory, Cleburne learned he should always examine the ground before he attacked over it and not to attack an enemy artillery unit firing canister.

"It was like a gigantic shotgun. It could be particularly devastating," Sword said. Cleburne recruited a battalion of his best shots to pick off enemy artillerymen in future fights, Sword said.

Cleburne might have won higher rank except for two factors. When his superior, Gen. Braxton Bragg, asked subordinates to critique his leadership, Cleburne twice told him Bragg hadn't accomplished what he could have and that he should resign, Sword said.

In early 1864, he urged the Confederate Army to recruit black slaves into the Confederate Army with the provision they would be free once they served. Cleburne thought blacks would fight for the South, but Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States of America, turned down the Cleburne proposal although he tried the idea late in the war.

"I think there would be a fair number of black soldiers" who would have fought for the South because many blacks had bonds with the families they served and under that system, they knew they had homes and food, Sword said.

Cleburne, who served in the British Army until he migrated to the United States, has been called the "Stonewall Jackson of the West," referring to the extremely popular Jackson of the war's eastern theater. Had he served in the east, Gen. Robert E. Lee would have recognized Cleburne's talent and wouldn't have held him back, Sword said.

Cleburne's life ended at the Battle of Franklin, Tenn., in November 1864 when Confederate Gen. John Bell Hood ordered him to make a "suicidal charge" across two miles of open ground against a fortified Union position, Sword said. Cleburne, 36, who wouldn't order his men to do what he himself wasn't willing to do, personally participated in the attack and was killed at the Union breastworks fighting with his soldiers, Sword said.

At Shiloh, Union and Confederate commanders suffered random fates. Sidney Albert Johnston, a very able Confederate general, was mortally wounded when a random shot fired by his own troops struck him, Sword said.

Union generals Sherman, who was in the thick of much fighting, was wounded in the hand and had several horses shot from under him, and Ulysses Grant, who was struck in the sword by an enemy round, survived the battle and the war.

Sword's books include "Southern Invincibility: A History of the Confederate Heart," "The Confederacy's Last Hurrah: Spring Hill, Franklin and Nashville," "Shiloh: Bloody April," "Mountains Touched with Fire: Chattanooga Besieged, 1863" (with Albert E. Castel) and "Sharpshooter: Hiram Berdan, His Famous Sharpshooters and Their Sharps Rifles."

Sword, 64, who had Union and Confederate soldiers in his family history, lived much of his life in Michigan and eventually moved to Suwanee, Ga., about 30 miles northeast of Atlanta. He is working on a revised version of "Shiloh: Bloody April," a monograph about the Henry repeating rifle, magazine articles and researching the Atlanta Campaign.

Steve Fry can be reached at (785) 295-1206 or sfry@cjonline.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: cleburne; confederate; dixielist; general; heritage; honor; sword
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• Who: Author Wiley Sword
• When: 6:30 p.m. Wednesday
• Where: Education classroom at the Kansas Museum of History, 6425 S.W. 6th.
• What: Monthly meeting of the Civil War Roundtable of Eastern Kansas.

Program is open to the public. Admission is free.

1 posted on 10/22/2002 12:04:52 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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2 posted on 10/22/2002 12:05:18 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: *dixie_list; archy; BurkeCalhounDabney; bluecollarman; RebelDawg; viligantcitizen; ...
Hurrah for Cleburne!
3 posted on 10/22/2002 12:07:09 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
Hurrah! and to hell with the union!
4 posted on 10/22/2002 12:13:19 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: stainlessbanner
Oh, I'm goin' every Southward to tell my tale of woe,
I'm goin' back to Georgia to see my Uncle Joe.
You can talk about your Beauregard
Or sing of General Lee ...
But the gallant Hood of Texas sure played hell in Tennessee.

(To the tune of "Yellow Rose of Texas", sung by the survivors of the Army of Tennessee on its retreat after the Battle of Nashville)

5 posted on 10/22/2002 12:16:11 PM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: stainlessbanner
...and Ulysses Grant, who was struck in the sword by an enemy round, survived the battle and the war.

Shot in the sword? Ouch!

6 posted on 10/22/2002 12:20:07 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: stainlessbanner
That's the first I heard of AS Johnston being shot by his own men. I am aware of the story that he minimized the severity of his own femoral artery wound and didn't realize he was in such dire condition till his boot filled with blood and he became woozy from loss of blood. I have stood near the tree he allegedly leaned against as he expired. Rumour has it that he had dispatched his own surgeon to tend to a wounded Union soldier after he was first shot.

Had he lived, no doubt the West would have been better served than with that idiot Bragg.
7 posted on 10/22/2002 12:23:00 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: stainlessbanner
"Here, let me put your sword back in your scabbard for you."

"Ouch, dammit, I don't have a scabbard!"

"You do now."

8 posted on 10/22/2002 12:25:56 PM PDT by paddles
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To: Cleburne
This one's for you, suh!
9 posted on 10/22/2002 12:28:28 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: wardaddy
Yes, from my understanding .. and it came from Wiley Sword's own "Shiloh: Bloody April" .. when they took the ball out of his leg, it more closely matched the bore size of the Confederate rifled muskets than it did the Union.

Although, to be truthful, anything was possible in that forested melee.

10 posted on 10/22/2002 12:32:29 PM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: stainlessbanner
Cleburne was one of the great Generals that fell during the Civil War. At the Shelton House during the Seige of Corinth, he sent the Union Army packing its bags. If Lincoln had been astute, he would have seen that Pope was a fool (So Lincoln gave Pope the command of the Army Of the Potomac and Pope got whipped at 2nd Manassas). Cleburnes' brilliant use of snipers was the first in war. So famous was he in the South, that when he was disinterred from Franklin about 1869, every city from Franklin, Tennessee to Helena, Arkansas along the railroad route, had his body lay in state so that the citizens could pay respect to him.

The affair at the Shelton House is little documented since it was such an embarrassment to the North. Ironically, on Cleburnes' headstone are his battle honors, Chicamauga, Shiloh, Murphreesboro, Franklin, Perryville, and Shelton House.

11 posted on 10/22/2002 12:33:09 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: stainlessbanner
Nice pic. But surely Cleburne didn't lead the charge at Franklin mounted, did he? Any officer in the lead would generally have dismounted, especially by '64. Yeah, yeah, Sheridan rode around like a maniac (famous, among other things, for leaping his horse over the breastworks at Five Forks), but I always thought Cleburne had better sense. D'ya know exactly how he was killed?

His proper place would have been a few hundred yards behind his division (where he might, in fact, have remained mounted), but civil war division commanders occasionally got carried away and got too far forward.

Just curious.

12 posted on 10/22/2002 12:38:51 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx
Not sure of the exact details of Cleburne's death, but the painting is a Don Trioni (sp?) - he does some beautiful work.
13 posted on 10/22/2002 12:42:39 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: wardaddy
A.S. Johnston was likely wounded from the volley of the Tennessee troops that he and the Governor of Tennessee, Ishiam Harris, were trying to rally. Johnston was wounded in the Popliteal artery and did dispense Governor Harris and his personal surgeon to take care of the troops. Johnston was an educated man in rudimentary medicine and had a tourniquet in his pocket. As for his military experience, it is exaggerated. He had less than one hour of combat experience and that was against the Mormons. He had lost the states of Kentucky and most of Tennessee and was thoroughly embarrassed. His statement I would fight them even if they were a million can be interpreted as his statement that he was going to take a stand to death, which he did. I work within sight of AS Johnstons' headquarters at Corinth (and all of the Generals' HQ for that matter). I have been over the site of Johnston's death with McPherson, Sword, Reaves, Allen, and a myriad of other historians.
14 posted on 10/22/2002 12:43:38 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: wardaddy
That's the first I heard of AS Johnston being shot by his own men.

The south had a propensity for shooting their own generals. Jackson, Hill, and Johnston were killed and Longstreet was wounded, all by Confederate bullets.

15 posted on 10/22/2002 12:46:25 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: sphinx
Cleburne was mounted at Franklin, led his men at Franklin and died at the Pizza hut at Franklin. Let us die like men was Cleburne's statement as he left Hoods' HQ prior to the charge at Franklin.
16 posted on 10/22/2002 12:46:44 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: stainlessbanner
That's in Topeka, just in case you were planning on making the trip.

I've never heard of Sword but the Albert Castel connection makes sense. He has had a lot of his stuff published through the University of Kansas press. His "Decision in the West: The Atlanta Campaign on 1864" is probably the most definitive book on that campaign that you'll find.

17 posted on 10/22/2002 12:50:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: vetvetdoug
Cleburne was mounted at Franklin, led his men at Franklin and died at the Pizza hut at Franklin.

That fast food will get you every time.

18 posted on 10/22/2002 12:51:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: vetvetdoug
died at the Pizza hut at Franklin

Franklin is probably the biggest battlefield I've not yet visited. I know the developers have gotten most of it. Is there much left to see?

19 posted on 10/22/2002 12:54:11 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx
Only around the Carnton house which was a bit south of the actual battle.
20 posted on 10/22/2002 1:00:08 PM PDT by wardaddy
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