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PUTIN - We could not rescue them all. Forgive us.
Lenta.ru ^ | 10-25-02 | Putin

Posted on 10/26/2002 11:35:05 AM PDT by MarMema

Dear compatriots!

These days we have, together, gone through a terrible test. All our thoughts were with the hostages, in the hands of armed vermin. We hoped for the best outcome, but each of us understood, that it is necessary to be ready for the worst.

Today the rescue operation of this morning is done.
It was possible to do almost the impossible - to rescue the lives of hundreds, hundreds of people. We have proved, that Russia cannot be put on her knees.

But now I first of all want to address the families and relatives of those who were lost.

We could not rescue them all.

Forgive us.

Let the Memory of the victims unite us.

I thank all the citizens of Russia for their endurance and unity. Special gratitude to everyone who participated in the rescue operation. Special thanks to the employees of the special divisions who, without hesitation, risking their own lives, struggled for the rescue of the hostages.

We are grateful also to our friends all over the world, for their moral and practical support in our struggle against the same enemy. This enemy is strong and dangerous, brutal and severe. It is international terrorism. While it is not defeated, anywhere in the world, people can not feel safe.
But it should be defeated. And it will be defeated.

Today in the hospital I talked to one of victims. He said to me "It was not that terrible - there was a confidence among us, that the future of the terrorists is not enduring." And this is the truth. They do not have a future. We do.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: hostages; moscow; putin; rescue; russia; terrorists; theatre
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Ok, this is my rough translation with the help of some online translators. Forgive me any errors and all better speakers of Russian, feel free to correct me. As most oeople know, Russian doesn't translate all that well to English anyway. So some of this is rough, but I didn't want it to sound English, as it is Russian.

As a longtime fan of Putin, I loved this speech and wanted to share it, to the best of my ability, with other freepers.

1 posted on 10/26/2002 11:35:05 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema; HAL9000; MadIvan; struwwelpeter
Nicely done, I think!

Translation help ping!

Putin comes across as well, compassionate!

2 posted on 10/26/2002 11:42:44 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: MarMema
I'm sure those hostages understood that they were all targeted for death and that their survival would probably involve a dramatic rescue at a high cost to themselves. I'm relieved they were able to rescue so many of the hostages before the terrorists were able to blow up the building and kill them all..what a terrible thing to happen in any country...may all such terrorists be doomed to swift failure and death!
3 posted on 10/26/2002 11:43:27 AM PDT by lsee
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To: MarMema
To have done nothing would have guaranteed the deaths of many more hostages. On Fox the other night a guest told of how the terrorists took one woman and broke all of fingers and then shot her in the stomach. These b##stards cannot be negotiated with, and upon capture they need to be summarily executed. The loss of the hostages is indeed tragic. The saving of the overwhelming majority of them is miraculous. The Russians had no other options.
4 posted on 10/26/2002 11:43:43 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: MarMema
Thank you for posting this. It is very obvious from reading his statement, that he knows that battle the world is up against in removing this evil from among us.
5 posted on 10/26/2002 11:44:00 AM PDT by shattered
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To: MarMema
Great Post! His remarks (even translated) are moving, you can feel his anguish come through. Reminds me of what "W" might have said, were he in the same position. Regards, Lurking
6 posted on 10/26/2002 11:44:16 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98
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To: MarMema
OK, I never thought I'd say this, but...Bravo Zulu Ivan.

5.56mm

7 posted on 10/26/2002 11:47:23 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: MarMema
Perhaps Putin will change his mind and help us regarding Iraq?
8 posted on 10/26/2002 11:48:13 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: MarMema
It seems to me you did an excellent job translating.
Prayers for the grieving in Russia. We certainly share in their mourning and detesting of the "vermin" who did this to innocents.
10 posted on 10/26/2002 11:49:31 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: MarMema
Thank you for posting, MarMema. The speech illustrates that Russia and Putin are WITH us and against the terrorists. President Bush was correct in recognizing Putin's strength of character.

The loss of some of the hostages is heartbreaking, but saving so many was an act of courage.
11 posted on 10/26/2002 11:49:43 AM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema
thank you ( and all the others who freely gave of their time to translate and provide updates)

i lurked for the duration but i also shared the thread with my public high school students.
12 posted on 10/26/2002 11:51:40 AM PDT by debg
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To: MarMema
The real miracle is that in times such as these, God has given both Russia and the US leaders who are up to the task. It is a mercy of God that we should all be grateful for.

It IS a long road ahead, and it's a dangerous road, but if we stick together we will arrive at the end. The terrorists will not.

13 posted on 10/26/2002 11:51:49 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: MarMema
Good speech. Great to see that they did rescue the majority of the hostages as I feared if it played out any longer, they all were going to die. It appears that the Al Quaida hostage playbook was unfolding up to the point where the Russians stormed the building.
14 posted on 10/26/2002 11:53:17 AM PDT by Corporate Law
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To: MarMema
Thank you, Putin, for a job well done You're a good man and a credit to your people. Our prayers are with you.

It was possible to do almost the impossible -- to rescue the lives of hundreds, hundreds of people. We have proved, that Russia cannot be put on her knees.

But now I first of all want to address the families and relatives of those who were lost.

We could not rescue them all.

15 posted on 10/26/2002 11:55:04 AM PDT by GOPJ
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To: MarMema
Thank you!
16 posted on 10/26/2002 11:56:51 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: MarMema
I love Putin now for every hostage killed they should retaliate against the chechens 100:1.
17 posted on 10/26/2002 11:56:55 AM PDT by weikel
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To: MarMema
I can't think of any time a US politician has ever asked the people of this country to forgive the Federal Government for anything that it did wrong. In fact, it never has admitted to doing anything wrong.
18 posted on 10/26/2002 11:57:44 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: windchime
Sorry that I have to be the voice of question here. I do agree that Putin did what he had to do here and it looks like they did a good job of rescuing their people.

But, I do not agree that this proves that Russia is with us and against the terrorists.

Russia is readying an alternate resolution for the UN Security Council which calls for no consequences for Iraq if they don't allow inspectors free access.

Putin is with us? I think not.

19 posted on 10/26/2002 11:57:56 AM PDT by Myrean
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To: weikel
I went to the Russian Embassy website hoping there would be a way to email them with my thanks for their timely effective action, but, alas, there was no email address.
20 posted on 10/26/2002 12:01:48 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: MarMema
Thank you for posting this. Russia sure has come a long way. I'll start thinking a little differently about Putin and Russia...
21 posted on 10/26/2002 12:04:05 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl
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To: MarMema
PUTIN - "We could not rescue them all. Forgive us."

He's a class act. Its not often you see ANY political figure show compassion, humility, and a general care for his constituents as Putin did through his statement.

22 posted on 10/26/2002 12:05:05 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus
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To: MarMema
Thanks, MarMema. Bump!
23 posted on 10/26/2002 12:05:35 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: MarMema

But it should be defeated. And it will be defeated.

Molodets, MarMema. And here is probably the state of the russkaya dusha right now.

24 posted on 10/26/2002 12:07:46 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Myrean
i think putin wants a price that bush won't pay...
and then there is france and china
dialing for dollars

i'm hoping bush will say we don't need no stinkin security council at whatever cost.
25 posted on 10/26/2002 12:07:59 PM PDT by debg
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To: Myrean
Putin is with us? I think not.

I'm thinking that perhaps Putin does not think we're with him yet.

Has our official policy regarding Chechnya changed yet? Do we officially realize that Russia is fighting radical Islamists in Chechnya, just as we are trying to fight them elsewhere?

26 posted on 10/26/2002 12:09:36 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: MarMema
The loss of the hostages is indeed tragic. The saving of the overwhelming majority of them is miraculous. The Russians had no other options.

There IS no other option than complete annaihilation of our Muslim foes.

27 posted on 10/26/2002 12:12:28 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Amelia
Thats my intrepratation.
29 posted on 10/26/2002 12:17:23 PM PDT by weikel
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To: MarMema
Today in the hospital I talked to one of victims. He said to me "It was not that terrible - there was a confidence among us, that the future of the terrorists is not enduring." And this is the truth. They do not have a future. We do.

This is a great speech by Putin. While regrettable that there were casualties among the hostages, it could have been, and would have been, much worse had the rescue attempt not been made.

They (the terrorists) do not have a future. We do. We being the Russians, Americans and any other civilized people.

30 posted on 10/26/2002 12:20:27 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Enterprise
"...and upon capture they need to be summarily executed."

I disagree. It's time to start making these monsters think twice about their actions. Brutal and inhumane as it may be, my suggestion:
Coat them in pig blood and hang them by their feet while broadcasting via satellite. Let the elements take them, slowly. No quick and merciful deaths for these things. Examples need to be set for all the other virgin seekers...

31 posted on 10/26/2002 12:21:11 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: MarMema
Thanks for posting this.
32 posted on 10/26/2002 12:22:43 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: president bork
Come-on, folks! This is Russia! Remember ten years ago??!!

Aren't the Chechens Muslies? Putin knows what another Muslim theocracy will mean to Russia: continual terrorism.

Let Chechens have their independence when they've exterminated the vermin.

33 posted on 10/26/2002 12:23:42 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: president bork
If it weren't for Wilsonians like you there would no Muslim problem( no Hitler or commies either).
34 posted on 10/26/2002 12:23:47 PM PDT by weikel
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To: sinkspur
Other than Turkey muslims should not be independent that religion needs to be wiped out.
35 posted on 10/26/2002 12:24:38 PM PDT by weikel
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To: MarMema
"These days we have, together, gone through a terrible test. All our thoughts were with the hostages, in the hands of armed vermin. We hoped for the best outcome, but each of us understood, that it is necessary to be ready for the worst."

Putin rocks.

36 posted on 10/26/2002 12:24:56 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: ChadGore
They are vermin.
37 posted on 10/26/2002 12:26:54 PM PDT by weikel
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To: livius; katnip; BrooklynGOP; Honorary Serb; Serb5150; Stavka2; FormerLib; The_Reader_David; ...
ping
38 posted on 10/26/2002 12:31:04 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: weikel
they should retaliate against the chechens 100:1

Consider that would involve descending to the level of terrorism. This will take time, but all the terrorist organizations will be smashed and terrorists will find it near impossible to meet without suspecting each other of being a government agent. Terrorists will betray each other, they already do so, and at an increasing rate.

39 posted on 10/26/2002 12:32:37 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Amelia
we don't recognise russia's problem with islamofascists, just like we don't recognise Israel's problem with them either...

We should, and we should NOW.
We should cut them the slack they need to save their nations from islamic terrorists.

If we cut them a check, Israel, India and Russia, would go for the jugular, by tomorrow morning.

40 posted on 10/26/2002 12:35:42 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: president bork
There's no other way than accepting that the Chechens have every right to be liberated from an empire. Just like some other people did around 1776...

Well, I would rather agree if this were, say, 1995. The Chechens were well within their rights to fight for independence from Russia in the 1994-1996 war. Let us remember, though, that in 1996 that war concluded with Chechnya achieving de facto independence. For three years, Moscow's writ held no authority in Chechnya. By the end of that three years, most NGO's and even news agencies did not send people in, as the place had become so lawless that it was the kidnapping capital of the world. Non-Chechens were kidnapped right and left by various bandits operating in Chechnya, and they even made occasional raids outside of Chechnya.

Even that might not have been Russia's business, but then, in the summer of 1998, ~1500 Muslim fighters from Chechnya, under the command of Shamil Basayev and the late Arab warlord known only as Khattab invaded Russia. That's right, they invaded Russia. They planned for the people of Dagestan (another Russian province) to rise up and join them in a great jihad. The people of Dagestan demured, and the Russians kicked the Chechnyans out. Then, they came back again a few months later, and this time the Russians chased them all the way back into Chechnya. In the process, they also worked to eliminate the strangle-hold that the Wahabbis had been acquiring over Chechnya.

Now, while most Chechnyans were not happy to see the return of the Russians, they had no desire to live under the Wahabbis who had set up shop there. The Wahabbis have since been reduced to a few fanatics hold up in the Panshki Gorge (Shevardnaze really, really needs to clean that place out; otherwise given the circumstances, I've a funny feeling that our own State Department will look the other way if Russians go over the border this time).

Come-on, folks! This is Russia! Remember ten years ago??!!

And what has happened in that ten years? Well, the Soviet Union is gone, with some of its former states wobbling towards democracy, some miredin authoritarianism, and some stuck under Stalinist dictators. But in Russia itself, we have seen in the last few years alone that Putin has pushed through the Duma things like the right to own land, vastly reduced taxes, and the right to trial by jury in criminal trials. Yes, the Russian press is not quite as free as it was about five years ago, but that will pass. On the whole, in addition to the above reforms, Putin has also been working to make sure that his country is friendly to economic growth while also trying to reign in the worst of the criminal businessmen who made Russia such a crappy investment climate in the 90's. Yes, Russia is still bumbling along in her road to being a democracy with a rule of law, and is not quite there yet, but in no way is she the entity against which our fathers and grandfathers stood watch.

42 posted on 10/26/2002 12:40:01 PM PDT by AndrewSshi
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To: RightWhale
My little sympathy for muslims has totally dissapeared. I don't care what its descending to I quote John Travolta in Swordfish

" they bomb a church, we bomb ten. they hijack a plane, we take out an airport. they execute an american tourist, we tactically nuke an entire city. "

we need to start thinking like him I no longer care about their civilians you can count on your hand the ones which don't support terrorism.

43 posted on 10/26/2002 12:40:15 PM PDT by weikel
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update from Lenta.ru -

The Russians accepted help, in person, from the representatives of 29 countries. All of whom were in Moscow on the eve before the rescue operation. Included were USA, Great Britain, Germany, Italy, France, China, Japan and the republic of South Africa.

These unsung heroes deserve credit, imo.

44 posted on 10/26/2002 12:41:07 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Myrean
"Sorry that I have to be the voice of question here."

Questioning is how we learn. No apology is necessary. You may even cause me to reassess my opinion.

I know the Russians have not signed on to the United States version of the UN resolution and prefer not to include military action as a penalty of Iraq's being uncooperative with inspectors. I also know their reluctance has been attributed to financial interaction between Iraq and Russia.
I am unfamiliar with the 'no consequences' alternate resolution they intend to present. Where can I read about it?

The terrorist group the Russians stood up to are part & parcel of the group we're fighting. That's why I said they are WITH us. The Russians made the decision to try to eliminate the terrorists rather than try to 'negotiate' with them. The vulnerability in the heart of their own country will, I think, make them come around.

Briefly stated, they got rid of some of the terrorists that could have been on our doorstep.
45 posted on 10/26/2002 12:42:04 PM PDT by windchime
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To: MarMema
Yep.. Sad. But still better then the alternative.
46 posted on 10/26/2002 12:42:59 PM PDT by BrooklynGOP
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To: AndrewSshi
13% flat tax in fact.
47 posted on 10/26/2002 12:43:03 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Voltage
This is what I'm thinking to. Those rebels may have helped push Russia more toward the US position in the war on terror, and Iraq.
48 posted on 10/26/2002 12:43:03 PM PDT by rintense
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To: MarMema
Another nation splattered with terrorism's gore. And hopefully, another ally in our neverending battle against that evil.
49 posted on 10/26/2002 12:43:49 PM PDT by IronJack
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