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ANDREW SULLIVAN: Did PC policing extend the snipers' range?
The Sunday Times ^
| October 27, 2002
| Andrew Sullivan
Posted on 10/27/2002 1:25:25 AM PDT by MadIvan
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Orwell is getting mentioned a great deal lately. Well done by Andrew.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
10/27/2002 1:25:25 AM PDT
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MadIvan
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Bump!
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posted on
10/27/2002 1:25:44 AM PDT
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
BTTT.
A litte truth to start the day!
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posted on
10/27/2002 1:51:53 AM PDT
by
DB
To: DB
Great Article
But remember...
Only WHITE people are Racists
To: MadIvan
He forgot to mention the worst outrage that the blatant racism of Chief Moose was still employed long after his detectives read the killer's letters (a clue bonanza if there ever was one) and knew from the phraseology that these guys had to be minorities of some type.
Mark Fuhrman was right. The detectives weren't running the show.
I would bet anything that there was at least one brave detective fighting the tide, trying to tell everyone in the task force after reading the letters that the killer is most likely a black five percenter, whose very motto is "I am God" -- especially with the other rap lyric references. Their ideas are also steeped with occult numerology and esoteric and masonic influences, so tarot cards even fit with this profile since they originated with 14th century Muslims in Egypt and are favored by those in secret societies who pursue hidden knowledge.
One FReeper even nailed early on that the "Mr Policeman" was Carribean flavored English so I'm sure that wasn't lost on the detectives.
To: spycatcher
Has anyone seen an explanation of why Chief Moose used the "duck in a noose" story? I have seen the explanation of where the story comes from, but I still don't see any logical connection to Mo and Malvo (from their history or from the letters they left to the police).
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posted on
10/27/2002 1:38:37 AM PST
by
twntaipan
To: MadIvan
How ironic that we get the best news about the sniper from the British press...
You realize that we're screwed, don't you? Political Correctness is the noose that will hang us. We can't deport them, we can't round up folks who converted to Islam in jail, we can't monitor the mosques. Hells bells, the cops can't even search a car that they ran the plates on...10 TIMES!!! Oh and someone broke into a Washington state INS office and pilfered passport stamps, a laptop, a Beretta, etc.
Free Republic is definitely NOT the cure for insomnia : (
To: twntaipan
Haven't heard anything more on the "Duck" story.
One thing I forgot though related to the profile...in their letter they demanded "10 million dollar" (not dollars). Hello? What detective who has ever talked to a black man wouldn't have alarm bells clanging away after reading that along with "word is bond." I mean I know Muhammad did his best to keep it slang free, but it was all there for professionals. What did they expect? "Word up" as an intro and "peace" as a sign out?
Of course the police wouldn't want to profile a certain race and save a few lives now would they?
Imagine Moose: "Obviously it could still be some violent militia guy like Eminem that's down with the street, chillin' with five percenters, dropping science and bustin' rhymes, so let's keep focused on whitey in his minivan."
To: MadIvan
I cant think of any better way to dehumanise a person, to rob him of any control over his lifes decisions.Great article and quote, thanks
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10/27/2002 3:52:15 AM PST
by
PGalt
To: MadIvan
book
To: spycatcher
One FReeper even nailed early on that the "Mr Policeman" was Carribean flavored English so I'm sure that wasn't lost on the detectives. Actually one Freeper early on nailed the profile that the sniper was probably black and a muslim.
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10/27/2002 3:59:44 AM PST
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PJ-Comix
To: PJ-Comix
Hey, we FReepers all figured out the muslim part from day one! I'm looking forward to them releasing the other letter and photos of the tarot cards that were used.
To: spycatcher
Hey, we FReepers all figured out the muslim part from day one! I remember one "expert" on the tube proclaim that the sniper couldn't possibly be a Muslim because he claimed to be God.
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posted on
10/27/2002 4:48:48 AM PST
by
PJ-Comix
To: MadIvan
BUMP for the PC Moose
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10/27/2002 4:53:29 AM PST
by
aruanan
To: PJ-Comix
The Boston Globe has people saying the same thing today saying that's proof he didn't kill for Allah. But I think this is the important quote:
Members of the Five Percenters, which split from the Nation of Islam in the 1960s, said they have members in Seattle but not Muhammad. Their followers never take that surname. Daoud Majestic, a Five Percenter in Pennsylvania, said that when Muhammad became a black Muslim 17 years ago, the Nation of Islam often used ''Word is Bond'' and advocated that the black man is God. The Nation has since toned down its rhetoric, Majestic said, but some older members still use it. ''It's very possible that he still used that kind of terminology,'' he said.
To: MadIvan
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It's known now that the snipers had a working laptop in the Caprice!
How many times did the cops see it?
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posted on
10/27/2002 6:19:44 AM PST
by
Betty Jo
To: MadIvan
It reduces someones moral responsibility and intellectual autonomy to a racial stereotype that all blacks are innocent victims who cannot be held responsible for their beliefs or arguments; or that all blacks are so oppressed that any bigotry they utter is permissible. It is a lot worse than that, and the tap dancing in this article confirms the pervasiveness of the PC disaster:
The statements implicitly argue that blacks have neither the intellectual horsepower nor the moral judgement, nor the common human ability (and necessity) to discriminate, think and make judgements.
Many will argue that to be the case, but the ultimate irony is when blacks themselves make that argument.
To: spycatcher
Imagine Moose: "Obviously it could still be some violent militia guy like Eminem that's down with the street, chillin' with five percenters, dropping science and bustin' rhymes, so let's keep focused on whitey in his minivan." Does anyone else here have a case of collective amnesia?
Am I the only one who remembers this? :
"We can't release a sketch of the subject because there are too many conflicting eyewitness versions...
"The suspect was dark complexioned, latino or perhaps Middle Eastern, but definitely not black... nope...
Pick a color, any color, but definitely not black..."
That statement was so bizarre and gratuitously racist.
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And no one said a word...
To: Betty Jo
I'm afraid that some of the cops were so blinded by the Black Racist PC Moose, that if they saw one of the snipers laying down and sighting on his next victim with the other using the computer, they would have ignored what they saw.
They were looking for the 100,000 evil white males driving a white van in the DC metro area trying to make a living, working instead of the life style of John Muhammed.
Every working stiff white male who drove a white van in the DC area was in danger of being shot thanks to the Black Racist PC Moose.
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