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[Wellstone] Co-pilot Played Minor Role in Story of Moussaoui
StarTribune.com ^ | Oct. 26, 2002 | Greg Gordon/ Mike Kaszuba

Posted on 10/30/2002 10:50:03 AM PST by ravingnutter

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:37:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Clovis_Skeptic; Grampa Dave
Ping for a strange story!
21 posted on 10/30/2002 9:50:47 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
I don't know what is more dangerous, the Rats when one of their senators is about to lose an election, remember Carnahan in Oct 2000 dying in a plane crash, or the Jihad in America group.
22 posted on 10/30/2002 11:56:19 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Breaking out the Reynolds Wrap...
23 posted on 10/31/2002 3:57:10 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
When dealing with the al Fuqra or Jihad in America Islamakazis, we need to wrap ourselves in Kevlar.
24 posted on 10/31/2002 6:14:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
How about a kevlar lead-lined bio-hazard suit? Then we're covered for just about any eventuality. Sigh...
25 posted on 10/31/2002 6:16:52 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: ravingnutter; Grampa Dave
The one thing I was absolutely determined to do was to stay away from the conspiracy theories sure to abound after this tragedy. Accidents do happen and this plane went down in very bad weather for goodness sakes. However, I too find this just a little too strange for comfort. It seems to me that too many people are dying who had peripheral contact with jihadists. For example, that woman who died in her burning car, later determined to be murdered, in TN who helped people connected with the 9/11 hijackers get fake driver's licenses. There's been several more mysterious deaths of this type in our country's heartland; I just can't remember the details. I fear that relatively innocent people have taken minor roles, not realizing their significance at the time, and are later murdered to keep them quiet. My big fear is that, to me, speaks of inside jobs. Traitors within our mist.
26 posted on 10/31/2002 7:47:38 AM PST by twigs
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To: mewzilla
So forget the tin foil and the kevlar.

Work 24/7 to expose our friends, relatives and others to al Fuqra and the grim threat that al Fuqra poses to innocent Americans.

Last Friday I was at a dinner party with 5 other couples. They are conservatives, well educated, intelligent and get most of their news from ABCNNBCBS.

None of them had even heard of al Fuqra. Two couples are getting really on board since I sent them some emails. The other three can't believe that al Fuqra even exists in America. They want to blame everything on al Qaeda and illegal aliens from the middle east. I keep sending them articles like this one, and one day that light will go off for them.
27 posted on 10/31/2002 8:42:45 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: twigs
Some of us feel that John Muhammad should be investigated as a possible hit man for the Nation of Islam, al Fuqra or whatever Islamakazi label he deserves.

His frequent flyer destinations while he was living in the state of Washington at the flop house need to be checked out re his flight dates and destinations. If there were unsolved murders involving former Nation of Islam members at the cities or near the cities he was at, there could be a link.

The Tn. murder of the DMV friendly to Black Muslims or the Nation of Islam and some other killings raise were not accidents. Apparently due to local Political Correctness spread all over Tenn, murders like this can be committed and not really followed up on.

Many of those involved were probably not traitors, but Politically Correct liberals and those who like the Nation of Islam devils for some reason. Combine that with a liberal media in bed with the Islamofascists who probably own a lot of stock in these media outlets, and Politically Correct top police Rats like the Moose. You end up with an environment where murder by the Nation of Islam Jihadists is not investigated.
28 posted on 10/31/2002 9:01:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Merovingian
'I love you, Mom. No matter what.'

Anything worth posting three times is worth posting forur times.

29 posted on 10/31/2002 9:06:30 AM PST by js1138
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To: timestax
Shades of the Egyptian "accident".
30 posted on 10/31/2002 9:09:18 AM PST by js1138
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To: Grampa Dave
Thank you for your reply. I certainly hope that this man--and Malvo--are very thoroughly investigated. Heard this am that there may be an Antigua connection. JAM spent time there and Richard Reid was headed there before Miami. Too much for coincidence here, IMHO.
31 posted on 10/31/2002 9:09:45 AM PST by twigs
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To: js1138
gits your attention, heh?
32 posted on 10/31/2002 9:12:33 AM PST by Merovingian
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To: ravingnutter
Glad to see DU is taking this story seriously. If there is foul play to be uncovered, better them than VRWC. I can think of how Islamics could be involved, or how dems could profit, but I can't think how pubbies could possibly gain from this. Senator Welfare was a poster boy for liberal excess -- one of those classic liberals that Limbaugh wants around as an example of the species.
33 posted on 10/31/2002 9:16:49 AM PST by js1138
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To: twigs
Besides selling passports in Antigua to illegal aliens to come to America, John Muhammad, the Nation of Islam, serial murderer may have been a bag man/mule to take money to and from the off shore banks in that area for the Nation of Islam, al Fuqra or some other Islamkazi sect.
34 posted on 10/31/2002 9:18:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Merovingian
Yeah, that hit me, too. Wonder what he meant by that? Payback time for Moussaoui's boys???
35 posted on 10/31/2002 9:50:22 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: js1138
Shades of the Egyptian "accident". 30 posted on 10/31/2002 9:09 AM PST by js1138 [ Post Reply

RIGHT!! The plane WAS reported to have turned at a 45 degree angle AWAY from airport, (turning back?) then goes nosedown into ground at full throttle. First this==any pilot worth his salt would NOT try to turn back if his wings were icing up.He would have been seeking higher alltitude, where there was NO ICE. and warmer temps. and if plane was iced up and he could not gain alltitude, that would most definatelly have been a radio MAYDAY event.

36 posted on 10/31/2002 9:59:02 AM PST by timestax
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To: Marysecretary
bump
37 posted on 10/31/2002 10:40:37 AM PST by timestax
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To: El Gato; JulieRNR21; Ragtime Cowgirl
Just the fact that Guess knew Moussaui from a Minnesota Flight School and allegedly provided Moussaui with jet aircraft software gives me the heeby-jeebies.

Do you think that maybe Moussaui is starting to sing like a bird and he was gonna rat Guess out so Guess went to get his 72 virgins? Do you think that Wellstone was being blackmailed to vote against the War with Iraq but it didn't do him any good anyway. This was not an accident. No way, no how.

38 posted on 10/31/2002 11:52:35 AM PST by floriduh voter
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To: Grampa Dave
I don't make a distinction between the rats and the jihad in America. Finally, I am a Lutheran before I get flamed for asking but was Guess a Lutheran as many Minnesotans are or was he another convert to islam? Maybe Wellstone, to illustrate his belief that islam is a religion of peace hired a muslim to fly his plane. Being PC can be a fatal error.
39 posted on 10/31/2002 11:58:03 AM PST by floriduh voter
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To: Grampa Dave; JulieRNR21; Ragtime Cowgirl; PhiKapMom
Hear me out, grampa. Bill McBride, dem candidate for Fla governor (behind in polls & a doofus), his law firm HOLLAND & KNIGHT LAW FIRM in Florida and around the country, represents white collar criminals and specializes in offshore banking.

Although McBride is demanding asylum for the Haitian boat illegal aliens to create racial strife before the elections, I wonder if he wants to talk about the offshore banks the firm he left in August of 2001 represents. I BET MOHAMMED was a banking client of one of their clients.

40 posted on 10/31/2002 12:04:29 PM PST by floriduh voter
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